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    Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Big 12, Pac-10 look at alliance

    By BLAIR KERKHOFF
    The Kansas City Star

    Big 12 Conference athletic directors met with their Pacific-10 counterparts in Phoenix on Wednesday and Thursday to discuss collaborating in a future sports landscape and possibly working together on television contracts, a source told The Kansas City Star.

    Contacted Thursday, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe confirmed the meetings but did not offer specifics. He called the exchange “very positive.”

    “It was an informal gathering,” Beebe said. “We talked about how we might cooperate going forward.”

    The meeting could be seen as preparation for possible Big Ten expansion. The Big Ten announced last December that it was exploring adding members, and among those swirling in the speculation are Big 12 members Missouri and Nebraska.

    An alliance between the Big 12 and Pac-10 could strengthen their position in television negotiations. As the two major conferences west of the Mississippi River, their schools are located in or near six of the nation’s top 13 media markets — Los Angeles, Dallas, San Francisco, Houston, Seattle and Phoenix.

    The Big 12 has football television contracts with ABC/ESPN that go through 2016 and with Fox Sports Net through 2012. The league begins negotiations with Fox starting next spring.

    The Pac-10 also has deals with ABC/ESPN and Fox through 2012 and is expected to begin negotiating new deals this year.

    According to the source, a negotiating point for new deals could involve games between the Pac-10 and Big 12.

    The conferences already partner in men’s basketball. Last week, the leagues announced the matchups for the fourth Big 12/Pac-10 Hardwood Series.

    Posted on Thu, May. 06, 2010 06:12 PM

    http://www.kansascity.com/2010/05/06...-alliance.html



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    It good that they are talking already, but having things set into motion would be better. Talk is cheap, lets see some action. I'm waiting for Beebe to screw this one up.


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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by ripvdub View Post
    It good that they are talking already, but having things set into motion would be better. Talk is cheap, lets see some action. I'm waiting for Beebe to screw this one up.
    Why the Beebe hate?



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobber View Post
    Why the Beebe hate?
    Agree, there are some things he cannot change. First, the schools have to change the revenue sharing. Second, Beebe is not responsible to the current tv contract, the previous guy did that, and after the deal was signed, he bolted to the Big 10 network.



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobber View Post
    Why the Beebe hate?
    I don't see many ISU fans in Waterloo.



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    That's what the enemy wants. To get closer, then steal our Colorado. I see what you are doing there Pac 10.



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobber View Post
    Why the Beebe hate?
    I have emailed him about 6 times over the last couple years and have never got a response, not even a thanks for your concerns form letter, while JP has responded to every email.



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    I don't see many ISU fans in Waterloo.
    We're here.



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by LutherClone View Post
    We're here.
    I've only seen a handful in the three years I've lived here. None being big fans.. just like to wear the gear. lol



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by tiberius View Post
    I have emailed him about 6 times over the last couple years and have never got a response, not even a thanks for your concerns form letter, while JP has responded to every email.
    That kind of makes sense. Beebe is getting emails from fans from 12 different schools, while JP is only getting them from ISU fans. I'm sure Beebe doesn't have the time to reply to every single email he gets.



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by tiberius View Post
    I have emailed him about 6 times over the last couple years and have never got a response, not even a thanks for your concerns form letter, while JP has responded to every email.
    As a much criticized person, JP, has emailed me back every time I've emailed him. Probably 5-6 times in the last 3 years.



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobber View Post
    Why the Beebe hate?
    I might need time for a list.



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    I don't see many ISU fans in Waterloo.
    For as much ISU stuff that they sell at the Scheel's at the mall in Waterloo, they must have some fans there...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    For as much ISU stuff that they sell at the Scheel's at the mall in Waterloo, they must have some fans there...
    Its nothing compared to Iowa and UNI stuff. I work at Hy-vee and we were selling some IOWA shirts but no UNI or ISU shirts because no one would buy them. But even so if people do buy the stuff at the mall(its probably mostly me) they hardly wear it out that I see. Just sayin. I'm sure theres some closet fans around.. or maybe I'm just not lucky enough to notice many.



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    Re: Big 12 Pac 10 Alliance

    This makes strategic sense.

    Fox and CBS are itching to get a piece of the College football puzzle and have lost out to ABC and the BTN. I'm glad to hear that there is some motion behind this.

    A joint network or partnership covering the Big 12 and Pac 10 would be monumental. The quality of sports would be awesome. I'll gladly watch an Oregon vs. Arizona State game and I'm sure some of the west coasties wouldn't mind watching a OU vs. Nebraska game too.

    Imo, all of this Mizzou/Nebraska to the Big 10 is just posturing to bring Texas to reality. Keep the Big 12 as is, if the paydays from a TV network are even remotely similar it would be silly for Mizzou and Neb. to leave behind 100 years of tradition of the old Big 8 and 6.



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