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    Fence Sealer

    In the next few weeks DM steel fence is going to come out and install a cedar fence for me. I'd like to keep the natural look of the cedar and not have it turn gray. Any recommendations on a product? Spray or brush? I assume i want sealant not stain?



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    Re: Fence Sealer

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    In the next few weeks DM steel fence is going to come out and install a cedar fence for me. I'd like to keep the natural look of the cedar and not have it turn gray. Any recommendations on a product? Spray or brush? I assume i want sealant not stain?
    you want stain not sealant.

    You want a semi transparent oil based stain. Go with a cedar tint.

    You still need to clean the wood before you stain it even though it is brand new. The most important step in preping for stain is using acid to neutralize the cleaner used on the fence and opening the pores of the wood for it to accept the stain. This makes it so you don't have to wait to stain it after it is new.



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    Re: Fence Sealer

    Quote Originally Posted by cytech View Post
    you want stain not sealant.

    You want a semi transparent oil based stain. Go with a cedar tint.

    You still need to clean the wood before you stain it even though it is brand new. The most important step in preping for stain is using acid to neutralize the cleaner used on the fence and opening the pores of the wood for it to accept the stain. This makes it so you don't have to wait to stain it after it is new.
    Thank you.

    Would this be a good option if I wanted to stick with the original color? Is this a good product?

    Sikkens: Simply Beautiful Woodcare Products For Your Wood Home



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    Re: Fence Sealer

    Based on past experience, (i've tried almost everything) I've found Penofin oil the best. It goes on thin like turpentine, and really soaks in. They got their start in marine applications, and now have stuff for green treated as well. You can get it clear or tinted. If you have to get up against it with a weedeater, you won't peel it off like the thicker stuff. Flood's CWF is a distant second.


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    Re: Fence Sealer

    Sherwin Williams Deckscape is good stuff to use.



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    Re: Fence Sealer

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    Thank you.

    Would this be a good option if I wanted to stick with the original color? Is this a good product?

    Sikkens: Simply Beautiful Woodcare Products For Your Wood Home
    Any no colored stain will let the Cedar Gray, you need a semi transparent if you don't want it to gray on you. The small amount of pigment that a semi transparent stain has in it protects against UV damage to the surface of the wood which is what turns it grey.

    Sikkens makes decent stain, another one to check out would be Olympic Maximum from Lowes makes a decent stain.

    I don't use stains that are bought locally on the decks and fences I stain for people.
    TWP 100 Series 5 Gallon | The Sealer Store Cedar tone 101 is what I would use a on Cedar Fence. I have done a number of Cedar Decks and fences and they always come out looking great. He also sells stuff for cleaning and neutralizing as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by roscoedog View Post
    Sherwin Williams Deckscape is good stuff to use.
    Thier stuff isn't bad but it is water based as opposed to oil.


    Last edited by cytech; 05-05-2010 at 01:42 PM.

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    Re: Fence Sealer

    Quote Originally Posted by cytech View Post
    I don't use stains that are bought locally on the decks and fences I stain for people.
    TWP 100 Series 5 Gallon | The Sealer Store Cedar tone 101 is what I would use a on Cedar Fence. I have done a number of Cedar Decks and fences and they always come out looking great..

    $140 for 5 gallons!!!!!!!!!! Does it contain gold?



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    Re: Fence Sealer

    So any suggestions on what to do if it has already turned gray? I assume that I can still clean and stain it now, but what's the best way to clean, power-washer or chemicals?



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    Re: Fence Sealer

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    $140 for 5 gallons!!!!!!!!!! Does it contain gold?
    I use High Quality stain that lasts never said it was cheap



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    Re: Fence Sealer

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    So any suggestions on what to do if it has already turned gray? I assume that I can still clean and stain it now, but what's the best way to clean, power-washer or chemicals?
    Pressure and wood don't go good with each other.

    If your wood is already gray it can be cleaned to remove the UV damaged wood particles on the surface to reveal good wood still.

    A Sodium Bicarbonate based deck cleaner should take care of it for you, then use a Acid Based neutralizer after cleaning let dry about 5 days and have at it.

    You can also used a Sodium Hydroxide based Deck Stripper to clean it as well. If your fence has been neglected you might be better off going this route. This still needs to be neutralized when done cleaning.

    You shouldn't use anymore than 1000 PSI to clean wood, never use Hot water. With the proper detergents for cleaning all the pressure you should need is from a garden hose

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiB2wOu8jak]YouTube - Low Pressure Wood Cleaning Washing[/ame]



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    Re: Fence Sealer

    Well the fence is installed but now I have another question.

    What type of lock can I out on this thing so that kids can't open it up? I'm thinking something where you have to reach over the fence to access it.

    Here is what it looks like now






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    Re: Fence Sealer

    you can just use a padlock if you don't want to open it from the outside. I would talk to the builder for other options



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    Re: Fence Sealer

    Quote Originally Posted by cytech View Post
    you can just use a padlock if you don't want to open it from the outside. I would talk to the builder for other options
    I'll have to do that. I don't necessarily want to lock it. Just make it so kids won't be able to reach it.

    I was thinking something like this on the inside that you have to reach over the fence (6ft)




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