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    SI.com - coaching changes review

    Riskiest hire: Fred Hoiberg was more than just a great player at Iowa State. He was a cultural icon, the Ames native who sank feather jump shots and went by the nickname "The Mayor." That qualifies him to be the guest speaker at a booster function but not necessarily a head coach in the Big 12. Hoiberg was most recently the vice president of basketball operations for the Minnesota Timberwolves, but he has zero coaching experience, of any kind, at any level. Maybe he'll turn out to be a brilliant hire, but for now it looks like Iowa State is trying to do the same thing Houston was when it hired Clyde Drexler in 1998. Drexler went 19-39 in two miserable seasons before resigning.


    Best job beating the posse out of town: Greg McDermott's days at Iowa State appeared to be numbered. He was fortunate to keep his job after the Cyclones went 4-12 in the Big 12 this season, and since he was losing his top three scorers, next year was looking like it was going to be pretty ugly. McDermott made a smart move, then, by taking the Creighton job that was vacated when Dana Altman left for Oregon. Creighton is an excellent job in a terrific league (Missouri Valley) with which McDermott is very familiar, having coached for five years at Northern Iowa. Plus, it's always better to follow someone who left for another job than someone who was fired. You've got a better chance of winning right away.

    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/seth_davis/05/04/coaching.changes/1.html#ixzz0mzKQJ8Dh



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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    pretty accurate on both accounts.



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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    ISU basketball: Clyde Drexler has some advice for Fred Hoiberg | desmoinesregister.com | The Des Moines Register
    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde Drexler
    I inherited a really bad team that we knew was going to be terrible," Drexler said. "I had to get eight intramural guys to fill out the roster.
    These two hires are not even close to being the same. Anyone who says they are, didn't do a lick of research.



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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    I see nothing wrong with the opinion as written. the Hoiberg hire has certainly grown on me, but this is not the sure fire cannot possibly fail hire that a lot of people on this site treat it as. Yes, Hoiberg has brought in a lot of excitement, and I also think he'll succeed. But if he doesn't, then it could potentially destroy basketball as we know it at ISU.



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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    Completely agree Stewo, this is an entire different situation that Fred is going into. Drexler's situation was really bad, as posted above.



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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsCYence View Post
    Completely agree Stewo, this is an entire different situation that Fred is going into. Drexler's situation was really bad, as posted above.
    It's almost as if everyone WANTS him to fail. Just another day of being a Cyclone, I guess.



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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    Quote Originally Posted by isuarch80 View Post
    Riskiest hire: Fred Hoiberg was more than just a great player at Iowa State. He was a cultural icon, the Ames native who sank feather jump shots and went by the nickname "The Mayor." That qualifies him to be the guest speaker at a booster function but not necessarily a head coach in the Big 12. Hoiberg was most recently the vice president of basketball operations for the Minnesota Timberwolves, but he has zero coaching experience, of any kind, at any level. Maybe he'll turn out to be a brilliant hire, but for now it looks like Iowa State is trying to do the same thing Houston was when it hired Clyde Drexler in 1998. Drexler went 19-39 in two miserable seasons before resigning.




    Best job beating the posse out of town: Greg McDermott's days at Iowa State appeared to be numbered. He was fortunate to keep his job after the Cyclones went 4-12 in the Big 12 this season, and since he was losing his top three scorers, next year was looking like it was going to be pretty ugly. McDermott made a smart move, then, by taking the Creighton job that was vacated when Dana Altman left for Oregon. Creighton is an excellent job in a terrific league (Missouri Valley) with which McDermott is very familiar, having coached for five years at Northern Iowa. Plus, it's always better to follow someone who left for another job than someone who was fired. You've got a better chance of winning right away.





    Seth Davis has nailed it with this analysis in my opinion.

    I'm sure his rational analysis is soon to be derided by many on here as the rantings of an idiotic lunatic.



    I cheer for two teams, Iowa State and whoever is playing the hawkeyes.

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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    I'm getting tired of the Drexler comparisons


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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    ISU basketball: Clyde Drexler has some advice for Fred Hoiberg | desmoinesregister.com | The Des Moines Register


    These two hires are not even close to being the same. Anyone who says they are, didn't do a lick of research.
    I didn't read this article but one big difference is that Drexler went straight from player to coach.

    This means he had no executive type experience but he also had not been forgotten (or worse yet never known) by the kids he was soon to be recruiting when he was hired.



    I cheer for two teams, Iowa State and whoever is playing the hawkeyes.

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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    but this is not the sure fire cannot possibly fail hire that a lot of people on this site treat it as.
    I must be reading different threads than everyone else... this is the second time in this thread that somebody has mentioned this... but I haven't read more than 1 or 2 posters suggest that this hire is a 'sure fire' no lose scenario.

    I feel that most people have suggested that it's got it's risk... but they like the hire. I think liking and getting excited about the hire is being confused with people thinking we're in a no lose situation.

    Yeah, they're a lot of people defending the many comments about lack of coaching experience... but there are very few people who are stating that there is no risk in this hire. Doesn't mean we can't like it or think it was a great hire.

    High risk, high reward... some people like that.



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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    You might say that it was a high-risk move by the guy who plunked down $100 grand on Super Saver in the Kentucky Derby as well.

    Like the dbronco7sc said, "High risk, high reward."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrocks View Post
    You might say that it was a high-risk move by the guy who plunked down $100 grand on Super Saver in the Kentucky Derby as well.

    Like the dbronco7sc said, "High risk, high reward."
    A horse that was 9-1 odds, and became a co-favorite at 8-1 immediately after his bet was "high risk/high reward"? The only real risk in that bet was that there were 20 horses in the race - and even then he wasn't even playing with his own money...


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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    From what I heard Drexler showed up and just expected it to happen without putting in much work. When it didn't look good after two years, he bailed.

    I see the opposite with Fred. I think Fred will put everything he's got into this gig.



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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    i don't disagree with seth davis, with one exception: "risk." what's the risk?? are we going to finish 10th in the b12 and go 4-12 three years in a row? are we going to face kids transferring because the team isn't winning? man, that would not be fun....wait a second......



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    Re: SI.com - coaching changes review

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    But if he doesn't, then it could potentially destroy basketball as we know it at ISU.
    I've know it crappy and known it nice... it won't be destroyed - only unejoyable (ik not a word, but what it will be).


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