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    UNI to the MAC?

    As long as we are talking about all this conference realignment jazz, how about UNI to the MAC? One of the guys I work with in Cedar Falls is a huge UNI fan. He was telling me that UNI has two choices right now. Go non-scholly for football and join the Pioneer League, or take the step up to FBS football, which would mean the MAC for them. Thoughts?



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    As long as we are talking about all this conference realignment jazz, how about UNI to the MAC? One of the guys I work with in Cedar Falls is a huge UNI fan. He was telling me that UNI has two choices right now. Go non-scholly for football and join the Pioneer League, or take the step up to FBS football, which would mean the MAC for them. Thoughts?
    Pioneer league. This state is barely big enough for 1 D1 team, 3 would not be good for anyone.


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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    The don't have a big enough stadium for D1. Can't happen.



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    Is the UNIDome even big enough for that?



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    Yes the UNI dome meets FBS standards.

    And no, this is not going to happen. And it is not/was not an option.



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by gwoodclone View Post
    Is the UNIDome even big enough for that?

    The Dome holds 16,000. The OP's contact in Cedar Falls in incorrect. As reported in the W/CF Courier a little while ago, the University did a study on the vesability of the football program and found that none of the choices (including ending football) really closes the budget gap that well. If they end football, they lose their advertising contracts with Leer Sports. Moving to non scholarship has the same impact and the season ticket base would shrink considerably. Moving to I-A is too expensive even though I do believe the Dome is FBS "legal".

    The word from the athletic department is that UNI will likely scheduale two games against 1-A opponents. While this puts them behind the 8 ball somewhat, it does increase the money flow and helps the department. UNI is also looking at raising student activity fees.


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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by gwoodclone View Post
    Is the UNIDome even big enough for that?
    I dont think it is, i think you have to average at least 17k, and their stadium holds less than that.



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    I dont think it is, i think you have to average at least 17k, and their stadium holds less than that.
    Incorrect.



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by 06Panther View Post
    Incorrect.
    Upon further research, i think you're right..i think it used to be 17k, but has been lowered to 15k actual or paid.



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    However, if UNI went to the MAC (or really any FBS conference), they'd have the smallest stadium by far.



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    There are many requrements to be a D1 Football team. Here is the one you are talking about. Most MAC schools are in the 25-30K stadium range. UNI Dome by far would be not welcome in that league. The MAC Schools already get enough flack for having small stadiums.

    3. Public Support: Public support, measured by attendance at home football games, is a requirement unique to Division I-A institutions. Prior to 2004, NCAA legislation required an institution that played their home games in a stadium that contained a minimum of 30,000 permanent seats to average more than 17,000 in paid attendance per home game for one year in the immediate past four year period. An institution that played its games in a stadium that contained less than 30,000 permanent seats was required to average 17,000 in paid attendance for every home game for each of the preceding four years.
    Beginning August 1, 2004, institutions were required to show the necessary degree of public support by averaging 15,000 in actual attendance (as opposed to paid attendance) each year. There was philosophical disagreement among Division I-A institutions as to whether or not public support measured by attendance at home football games is an appropriate criteria for determining an institution’s Division I-A status. Another concern was that linking Division I-A membership status to actual attendance was linking an important institutional identity to something outside the control of the institution.
    In response to these concerns, the Division I Board of Directors adopted Proposal 2005-20, with an August 1, 2005 effective date. This rule requires that Division I-A institutions annually average at least 15,000 in actual or paid attendance for all home football contests once every two years. This new rule reinforced the philosophy that public support is an important component of Division I-A membership: it also provided relief from the 2004 attendance requirements and continued to distinguish Division I-A institutions from the less rigorous membership requirements to field a Division I-AA football team.


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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    They would have the second smallest FBS stadium. Idaho's Kibbie Dome is 16,000 for football while the UNI-Dome is 16,300. The next closest is FAU's stadium, which seats 20,450.



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    I UNI does play 2 games vs 1A teams I wonder if they will look at going outside the northern Midwest.



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by HandSanitizer View Post
    There are many requrements to be a D1 Football team. Here is the one you are talking about. Most MAC schools are in the 25-30K stadium range. UNI Dome by far would be not welcome in that league. The MAC Schools already get enough flack for having small stadiums.

    3. Public Support: Public support, measured by attendance at home football games, is a requirement unique to Division I-A institutions. Prior to 2004, NCAA legislation required an institution that played their home games in a stadium that contained a minimum of 30,000 permanent seats to average more than 17,000 in paid attendance per home game for one year in the immediate past four year period. An institution that played its games in a stadium that contained less than 30,000 permanent seats was required to average 17,000 in paid attendance for every home game for each of the preceding four years.
    Beginning August 1, 2004, institutions were required to show the necessary degree of public support by averaging 15,000 in actual attendance (as opposed to paid attendance) each year. There was philosophical disagreement among Division I-A institutions as to whether or not public support measured by attendance at home football games is an appropriate criteria for determining an institutionís Division I-A status. Another concern was that linking Division I-A membership status to actual attendance was linking an important institutional identity to something outside the control of the institution.
    In response to these concerns, the Division I Board of Directors adopted Proposal 2005-20, with an August 1, 2005 effective date. This rule requires that Division I-A institutions annually average at least 15,000 in actual or paid attendance for all home football contests once every two years. This new rule reinforced the philosophy that public support is an important component of Division I-A membership: it also provided relief from the 2004 attendance requirements and continued to distinguish Division I-A institutions from the less rigorous membership requirements to field a Division I-AA football team.
    According to the NCAA, UNI averaged 12,929 per game for 2009 and 12,178 per game for 2008. The NCAA does not say whether these are paid or actual figures.



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    Re: UNI to the MAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by hurdleisu24 View Post
    I UNI does play 2 games vs 1A teams I wonder if they will look at going outside the northern Midwest.
    If it's all about money, they'll go wherever they get paid the most.



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