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    Lickliter takes a different aproach

    When GMcD took the job, he recognized the importance of recruiting, and went out and hired 2 excellent recruiters in TJ Otzelberger and Jean Prioleau... so far, I think that's working. Over to the east, the new coach brought 2 assistants from the Horizon league, and has now hired a coach from Div. III where they don't offer scholarships.
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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgeezer View Post
    When GMcD took the job, he recognized the importance of recruiting, and went out and hired 2 excellent recruiters in TJ Otzelberger and Jean Prioleau... so far, I think that's working. Over to the east, the new coach brought 2 assistants from the Horizon league, and has now hired a coach from Div. III where they don't offer scholarships.
    Link:DesMoinesRegister.com
    All I can say is I;m pretty surprised in his hirings. In my opinion, his biggest weakness is recruiting and I don't think these assistants are going to help much in that regard. Maybe I'm wrong but that's just how I see it.


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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    i hope your not wrong jeremy, im getting some good laughs out of this



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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    Personally, I think LickyLubighter is a closet ISU fan who took the job at EIU so he could take them to Community College status within 3 yrs and his actions appear to be proving that. Thanks LickyLubighter...



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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    Personally I think these are surprising hires from the standpoint of quick hits versus teh long pull. It looks to me that he is following the ferentz model in building a chemistry and philosophy first and really looking to the cement the program. From hearing from folks in Butler (I live in Indy) the Jordan kid is supposed to be a great recruiter and they were almost as concerned with him leaving as Lick(whateverhis nameis).

    I think we may get them for a couple of years ... but it is abundantly evident that this guy can coach. This guy has owned Coach Mac in the past and I am really worried that he will own us in the future. Squwak fans are just so happy Alfraud is gone that I think EIU may be the sleeping giant awakened interms of support and resources.



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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    He owned the UNI Mac not the ISU Mac. I would hope there is a recruiting difference now leaning in Macs favor this time.



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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    I wouldn't say owned. He was only 2-0 against GMac.

    I don't know how Iowa fans can be excited about this hire. The butler guy I understand but the Loras coach? You might as well get a 4-A high school coach considering they are about the same level.



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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    Until he proves otherwise, I don't see Lick doing any better than Collier in terms of moving up. Collier was an excellent coach at Butler who usually outperformed the competition in terms of X's & O's. He learned the hard way that the coaches in the Big XII were just as solid in terms of X's & O's and had better than Butler level talent to work with. Collier tried to adjust, but was too late in adding established recruiters to the staff. When he did, the talent increased, but these guys also brought along behavior and attitude problems that he couldn't handle.



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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    Quote Originally Posted by mark View Post
    This guy has owned Coach Mac in the past and I am really worried that he will own us in the future.
    I would certainly not say that beating Gmac twice is "owning". I am not sure where they met up before, but did Lickylubighter beat Gmacs 1AA team with a 1AA team or was it division 1? I would say Gmac has upgraded since and past is just what it is......the past. I'll take Gmac..

    And thinking EIU might be a giant??? Maybe a giant pile of CRAP



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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    I don't know what all the hate on Lickliter is - he's hiring within the state of Iowa, which is something the U of I has taken a big hit on in the past (not having any Iowans coaching or playing).

    And how do we know that Lick isn't a good recruiter? He's been at Iowa for just over 2 weeks. Plus, he had several 4 star recruits going to Butler this year - which I dunno about the rest of ya'll, but I'd think that getting 4 star recruits in the Horizon league is a little harder than getting them at Iowa.

    Lick has proven he can beat the big boys. I'm not 100% sure on Collier's record against BCS schools, but this year Lickliter "out-coached" Bruce Pearl, Mark Few, Kelvin Sampson, Matt Painter, and the Notre Dame head coach. And, not to mention, Butler was extremely close to knocking off Florida in the NCAA. So I am really at a loss for words when people say he can't recruit or beat the bigger schools.


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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    SouthernHawk, people are going to say he can't recruit until he actually puts together a recruiting class. The same exact statements were made about Greg McDermott when he was hired at Iowa State.

    However, hiring the Loras head coach as an assistant?!? That's a serious stretch...



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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    SouthernHawk, people are going to say he can't recruit until he actually puts together a recruiting class. The same exact statements were made about Greg McDermott when he was hired at Iowa State.

    However, hiring the Loras head coach as an assistant?!? That's a serious stretch...
    Yup, which is my point - I'm not going to pass judgement until he actually has a chance to recruit somebody. The next couple of classes will start to show how he can recruit.


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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    I've always felt, and always stated that GMac was going to be a great recruiter because of the personality he has and how well that translates to the young kids. Conversely, I don't see that Lick has that. He may be a good coach but unless he brings in some stud recruits, Iowa will always struggle in the Big Ten. I know a lot of people had questions about GMac when he came in to ISU but I wasn't one of them. I would have questions had Lick been our coach.


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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I've always felt, and always stated that GMac was going to be a great recruiter because of the personality he has and how well that translates to the young kids. Conversely, I don't see that Lick has that. He may be a good coach but unless he brings in some stud recruits, Iowa will always struggle in the Big Ten. I know a lot of people had questions about GMac when he came in to ISU but I wasn't one of them. I would have questions had Lick been our coach.
    I dunno, most Iowa fans love Lick's personality. The DeMatha coach, when Lick went out there to secure Peterson had this to say about Lick, "He came in and was just straight forward, and told Jeff what it was he wanted from him, and what he was looking for. I have never been so impressed with a coach I had never met before, I had never seen somebody so honest and upfront. I have great respect for Coach Lickliter"

    Not to mention, the only reason Brad Garrett was thinking about Iowa was because he and his coach had extremely high respect for Lickliter.

    And finally, the heartache and dissapointment Butler fans and players felt when he left says it all. Lickliter is just as much of a people-person as GMac, and relates to the kids extremely well.

    Loras coach or not, Lickliter is doing it right - he's staying within Iowa, becoming an Iowan, he's excited to be here, and I couldn't be happier with the coaching situation.


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    Re: Lickliter takes a different aproach

    What is so different they hired a Divison 3 coach, we hired a community college assistant, so yea!!


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