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    Bad to Worse

    With Wilkins, Clark, Osoneiks, & now Clyburn off the table, I am not seeing anyone that is currently on the radar that has the potential to help right next year. Mills may be a good pick up, but the value from him is 2-3 years from now. Bo Barnes is a great shooter, but brings less all around game than who we have now in that role.

    I have been hoping that we could get a couple guys that surprise us with their contributions next year, but that is looking unlikely. With one of our key recruiters gone, and another coaching spot vacant, we are in a tough spot.

    I am one who while I like most of you had doubts (yeah I know thats an understatement) about if Gmac would be able to turn it around enough next year to give some hope and momentum, but I wanted that to happen. At the end of the day, we would be better off if things turned around quickly and Gmac started winning and players stayed, than if we had a coaching change. However, with the lack of success in spring recruiting I don't see how that is going to happen next year.

    No good answers here on 4/20


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    Re: Bad to Worse

    So if we don't sign one single targeted recruit during this period with scholarships to give and ample opportunities for playing time, in JP's eyes could that be a "fireable offense"?

    I mean, it's just sad and embarrassing.



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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Wait, we'e out on Wilkins now? What happened there? I thought that he was down to us and IU and he wasn't crazy about IU.



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    Re: Bad to Worse

    This program has hit rock bottom with or without these recruits.

    Until there is a change, it really won't matter.



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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Really would like to get Mills at this point.

    We really, really, really need Ejim and Phillips to live up to the hype.




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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    Really would like to get Mills at this point.

    We really, really, really need Ejim and Phillips to live up to the hype.
    That to me is the only hope at this point. If they can come in a be better than advertised we, and Gmac, have a chance.


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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    Really would like to get Mills at this point.

    We really, really, really need Ejim and Phillips to live up to the hype.
    and not transfer after a year, or worse, ask to be released from their loi's



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    Re: Bad to Worse

    That's because today's kids are too lazy to even sign their name to a letter of intent. They'd rather borrow dear old Dad's Stutz Bearcat and go dance the Charleston than do their chores. I think Grandpa Pollard is right to want to bring the hickory switch to these young whipper-snappers.



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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    Really would like to get Mills at this point.

    We really, really, really need Ejim and Phillips to live up to the hype.
    Living up to message board hype has not exactly worked out well over the past few years.


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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Quote Originally Posted by JCloned View Post
    With Wilkins, Clark, Osoneiks, & now Clyburn off the table, I am not seeing anyone that is currently on the radar that has the potential to help right next year. Mills may be a good pick up, but the value from him is 2-3 years from now. Bo Barnes is a great shooter, but brings less all around game than who we have now in that role.

    I have been hoping that we could get a couple guys that surprise us with their contributions next year, but that is looking unlikely. With one of our key recruiters gone, and another coaching spot vacant, we are in a tough spot.

    I am one who while I like most of you had doubts (yeah I know thats an understatement) about if Gmac would be able to turn it around enough next year to give some hope and momentum, but I wanted that to happen. At the end of the day, we would be better off if things turned around quickly and Gmac started winning and players stayed, than if we had a coaching change. However, with the lack of success in spring recruiting I don't see how that is going to happen next year.

    No good answers here on 4/20
    I think the emboldened statement would have been apropos about 3 years ago. Unfortunately, heading into year five you just can't have the history that GM does in his first 4 years and expect it to magically change.

    At this point he can't sell the hope of a new sheriff in town in any serious way and our competitors for recruits are quite likely either passively or actively highlighting both his history at ISU as well as his probable future (which is likely short).

    As another poster in another thread put it so well...this is why guys with the record and history GM has put up at ISU get fired.



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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Hey, guess what...This conversation has been had 23 different times in the past 2 weeks...

    Everyone gets it...The sky is falling...tomorrow is taking the day off and the world as we know it will cease.


    Get over it. GMAC is here for next year. They are recruiting but its got to be a hard sell. I have confidence that we will sign at least 2 more players this year. Will they be world beaters...no, but if they can give 5-10 serviceable minutes next year, then I will be happy.



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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    Living up to message board hype has not exactly worked out well over the past few years.
    That's because most people on here look at dunks and athletic ability as the two biggest factors of success at the D1 level. They don't look at shooting, strength, ball handling, etc....



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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonegrad07 View Post
    Wait, we'e out on Wilkins now? What happened there? I thought that he was down to us and IU and he wasn't crazy about IU.

    His Dad said No ISU or so the rumors indicated a couple of days ago. He is looking around. Iowa may pop up.


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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Quote Originally Posted by HHWalters View Post
    That's because today's kids are too lazy to even sign their name to a letter of intent. They'd rather borrow dear old Dad's Stutz Bearcat and go dance the Charleston than do their chores. I think Grandpa Pollard is right to want to bring the hickory switch to these young whipper-snappers.
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    Re: Bad to Worse

    Quote Originally Posted by HHWalters View Post
    That's because today's kids are too lazy to even sign their name to a letter of intent. They'd rather borrow dear old Dad's Stutz Bearcat and go dance the Charleston than do their chores. I think Grandpa Pollard is right to want to bring the hickory switch to these young whipper-snappers.
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