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    Shadowed beer

    Has anyone else had a beer from a certain brewery or brand that wasn't the most talked about beer that the brand has and think it is way better than the "flagship beer"? I just bought a sampler pack of New Belgium beer and I like Fat Tire but I had an Arrow and it is amazing. I can't believe I've never heard of it before.

    I also love Spotted Cow but think that Totally Naked is better but I never hear about it. Also I think Michelob's Dunkelwiess is way better than Amber Bock. These are also just my opinions but since there are so many people on here that like beer I want to hear what other brands have beer that many people don't hear about. I love trying different beer so lets hear about them.



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    Re: Shadowed beer

    I think that Point's Amber Classic is a good cheap amber beer.



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    Re: Shadowed beer

    Bell's Oberon is probably the most sold beer, but their Two Hearted IPA is one of the best IPA's I've ever had and I've had A LOT of IPA's.


    Now that MBB is back, do we still have to pretend that WBB matters?

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    Re: Shadowed beer

    Yuengling Black & Tan over their lager.



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    Re: Shadowed beer

    Quote Originally Posted by saf View Post
    Yuengling Black & Tan over their lager.
    My fiance is from Philly area and man do I love going back there and having Yuengling.

    I love the Amana beers, most notably the John's Iowa City, and not a lot of my friends hear about it or drink it. 212 down on Main St. usually has it in bottles.



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    Re: Shadowed beer

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    Bell's Oberon is probably the most sold beer, but their Two Hearted IPA is one of the best IPA's I've ever had and I've had A LOT of IPA's.

    If you are talking just among the Bell's line, yes the Oberon is their best seller. They also have an Amber that sells well.

    One that I like that doesn't seem to get much play is the Millstream Iowa Pale Ale. The person before who commented on the John's Generation White Ale, I agree that is a tasty beer, but I like the IPA better.

    But again, only my opinion, drink what you like, be it Bud Light, Miller Lite, Coors Light, Stella, Sam Adams, Boulevar, etc... Drink what makes you happy.



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    Re: Shadowed beer

    Bud Light gets all the credit... But Natty is where its at-ty... that was terrible


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    Re: Shadowed beer

    1554 by New Belgium is way better than Fat Tire. Never had an Arrow.



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    Re: Shadowed beer

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    1554 by New Belgium is way better than Fat Tire. Never had an Arrow.
    Bought my first 6 of 1554 this weekend. Very good. I try something new every month and this one did not let me down.



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    Re: Shadowed beer

    Gotta say I've been turned off of fat tire ever since I grabbed one out of a cooler in 100 weather at a company bbq. The damn thing was cold on the outside from the ice, but when I opened it and took a drink it was like 90 degrees still. FYI, fat tire sucks when it's hot. Haven't had it since. (partially because I live out east and it's hard to find).

    I like Sierra Nevada's Torpedo Ale (over the pale ale), or Brooklyn Brewery India Pale Ale (way better than the Lager).



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    Re: Shadowed beer

    Generally speaking, the more popular a beer is in terms of sales, the worse it is in terms of "good beer".

    Beer is kind of like cheese. Almost everyone will gladly eat a slice of yellow monstrosity packaged in cling wrap, but a 5 year aged cheddar is a fair bit less popular, and goat cheese less so.

    That's why companies' staples tend to be generic. Boulevard's Wheat and Pale Ales, for example. Not much flavor. Not much to offend anyone. Cheap to make. Easy to sell. If you apply the "Not much flavor. Not much to offend anyone. Cheap to make. Easy to sell." method to beers in order of popularity in the US, you'll find it holds less and less true the less and less popular a beer is.

    People also tend to really dig a few "starter" craft beers, for much the same reason. Blue Moon is a good example, as is Fat Tire, and perhaps Sam Adams. Once you get them broken away from the American adjunct lagers, it's a slippery slope to Russian Imperial Stouts and Double IPAs :D

    At any rate, there are a bunch of beers that fall into the "overshadowed" category. For them to really count, though, I think they need to be marketed the same as other, more popular beers. It's sort of unfair to compare Rye on Rye with Boulevard Wheat. One costs 8 bucks for a 6 pack and the other 12 dollars per 750ml bottle.

    I think that Big Sky IPA from Big Sky is a way better IPA than Moose Drool is a Brown Ale.

    Almost everything from New Glarus is better than Spotted Cow.

    As was previously mentioned, Bell's Oberon is probably their top seller, but they have a BUNCH of beers that are much, much better. Expedition Stout, Hopslam, 2 Hearted, Cherry Stout, 3rd Coast.

    Gumballhead from 3 Floyd's is a great beer too, that doesn't get much attention compared to Dark Lord.

    And then there are whole breweries that are overshadowed from areas. I think O'Dells has way better beer than New Belgium, despite being located a stone's throw from one another. Founder's has, in my opinion, much better beer than Bell's as well.

    As someone else said, though, drink what you like, but like what you drink. That being said, if you can find something you like locally, why not support local breweries? Or at least American ones! I'm firmly convinced that the best beer in the world, at the moment, is being brewed right here in the US. It's a great time to be a beer lover!


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    Re: Shadowed beer

    -John's White Ale is 10x better than anything else from Millstream, and it's not even close.

    -Mighty Arrow is much better than Fat Tire (New Belgium)

    -Boulevard Single Wide is much better than Boulevard Wheat

    -Big Sky IPA is better than Moose Drool

    -Torpedo is the best Sierra Nevada product

    At lot of these observations and opinions of mine are just based on that I prefer certain styles, and not really based on the quality of the beer. Fat Tire is as good of an Amber Ale as I've had, but I don't like Amber Ale at all, as a style. I prefer IPAs to about anything, but I can enjoy pretty much all styles when presented with it.


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    Re: Shadowed beer

    Quote Originally Posted by BKLYNCyclone View Post
    Gotta say I've been turned off of fat tire ever since I grabbed one out of a cooler in 100 weather at a company bbq. The damn thing was cold on the outside from the ice, but when I opened it and took a drink it was like 90 degrees still. FYI, fat tire sucks when it's hot. Haven't had it since. (partially because I live out east and it's hard to find).

    I like Sierra Nevada's Torpedo Ale (over the pale ale), or Brooklyn Brewery India Pale Ale (way better than the Lager).
    For some reason I pictured Ron Burgandy when I read this. "It's so hot. Fat Tire was a bad choice."



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    Re: Shadowed beer

    I had Boulevard 7 when I toured the plant last week. It is one of the smokestack series. They call it a farmhouse belgian and it was really good. Similar to a blue Moon but a bigger bite to it. I tried to find it at Hyvee but they only had the other smokestack beers.



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    Re: Shadowed beer

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKID View Post
    I had Boulevard 7 when I toured the plant last week. It is one of the smokestack series. They call it a farmhouse belgian and it was really good. Similar to a blue Moon but a bigger bite to it. I tried to find it at Hyvee but they only had the other smokestack beers.
    They did a Smokestack called "Two Jokers" last year, that was a double Wit, and it too tasted similar to this. Haven't seen it since last summer, and I'm hoping it will be back. That was a real treat.

    I definitely enjoy the Smokestack series. The Rye on Rye was something else.


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