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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Let's not mess this kid up like we did Samardzija. He has promise to be a solid starter one day. Bring him up through the system and call him up when he is ready to go into the rotation.


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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYdTracked View Post
    Let's not mess this kid up like we did Samardzija. He has promise to be a solid starter one day. Bring him up through the system and call him up when he is ready to go into the rotation.
    +1

    Could not agree more.



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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Here's the thing, everyone is so excited about Castro, Vitters, and Cashner and some of the other young guys in the system they want them all up now. Problem is Lou won't play them like they should be. Look at Colvin, he should be starting every day in the OF so he's in a bind because he'd probably tear up AAA right now but he's blocked by 3 contracts in the OF right now in Chicago.

    I say wait and see what this team does, if they are not in it by the deadline deal some contracts and start the youth movement then because it's probably right around the corner anyways. I'm sick of Zambrano lately too and would take some prospects for his $18 mil contract right now too. There is starting pitching depth in the organization and Z is not pitching like an Ace should so there is some easy money to free up I think. Problem is the 2 worse contracts on the books in Soriano and Fukudome are nearly impossible to trade right now. If Fukudome can keep hitting around .300 by the deadline someone might take a chance because he only has 1 more year left.


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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYdTracked View Post
    Here's the thing, everyone is so excited about Castro, Vitters, and Cashner and some of the other young guys in the system they want them all up now. Problem is Lou won't play them like they should be. Look at Colvin, he should be starting every day in the OF so he's in a bind because he'd probably tear up AAA right now but he's blocked by 3 contracts in the OF right now in Chicago.

    I say wait and see what this team does, if they are not in it by the deadline deal some contracts and start the youth movement then because it's probably right around the corner anyways. I'm sick of Zambrano lately too and would take some prospects for his $18 mil contract right now too. There is starting pitching depth in the organization and Z is not pitching like an Ace should so there is some easy money to free up I think. Problem is the 2 worse contracts on the books in Soriano and Fukudome are nearly impossible to trade right now. If Fukudome can keep hitting around .300 by the deadline someone might take a chance because he only has 1 more year left.

    I would love it if all the aging vets on the team would live up to their contract numbers but I just don't think it is going to happen. I wish they would have started a youth movement a little while ago and build up the farm system. They have the budget that if they built a team around young talent, they could actually afford to keep them once they hit their prime. Right now the roster is full of overpaid guys past their prime.

    Does anyone think they will let D Lee walk after this year or will they pay him again?



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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Is there a better option at 1st? I don't see any unless we can find someone in the free agent market next off-season. I still think there is some life in D Lee, plus he is one of the best defensive 1st basemen in the game.



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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    I think as long as Lee is not looking for anything more expensive than his current salary he'll be back on a 2 year deal. Supposedly the plan is to move A-Ram to 1B once Vitters is ready so a lot might depend on his development too. Hoffpauier is a cheap option there and seems like you can always find a decent 1B on the free agent market too. Adam Dunn is a free agent after this season, he might come cheaper than Lee although his defense is not as good but his power from the left side is a big plus.


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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZJohnson View Post
    Is there a better option at 1st? I don't see any unless we can find someone in the free agent market next off-season. I still think there is some life in D Lee, plus he is one of the best defensive 1st basemen in the game.
    I would be sorry to see DLee go. I think his D is overlooked way too much. He makes 3-6 look so much better by routinely digging throws out of the dirt and making it look effortless.

    He is also a calming influence in a clubhouse that can get a little crazy at times.


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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    I think lou is done after this year. next year i say try and get an extension with A-ram, and Nady. Let Lee go and spend that cash on pitching. maybe 1 starter and **** load of bullpen help. Make Nady the everyday 1B because he doesnt really have the arm to play OF anymore. Move Theriot to 2B so starlin is the everyday SS. Try and ditch fukudome so colvin can start everyday. would love to ditch soriano, but its just not possible because no one wants him. next year i would go...

    1B: Nady (a veteran backing up 1B/3B. some free agents could be Mike Lowell, Pedro Feliz, Brandon Inge, etc.)
    2B: Theriot (fontenot backing up this)
    SS: Castro (theriot playing here when castro needs a day)
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    LF: Soriano
    CF: Byrd (a speedy free agent backing this up, but there really isnt going to be many good ones available)
    RF: Colvin
    C: Soto (would like to see someone other than hill backing this up)

    Rotation: Zambrano, Dempster, Lilly, and 2 of Silva, Jay Jackson, Free Agents
    Bullpen: Marmol, Grabow, Caridad, and a whole bunch of free agent help


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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYdTracked View Post
    I think as long as Lee is not looking for anything more expensive than his current salary he'll be back on a 2 year deal. Supposedly the plan is to move A-Ram to 1B once Vitters is ready so a lot might depend on his development too. Hoffpauier is a cheap option there and seems like you can always find a decent 1B on the free agent market too. Adam Dunn is a free agent after this season, he might come cheaper than Lee although his defense is not as good but his power from the left side is a big plus.
    Yeah, for DLee to come back, he better be willing to take a paycut. Noone does that these days so I hate to say it, but I think he will end up walking. He has been way overpaid since his injury.

    I wonder how well A-Ram can play 1B?



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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Cashner was a closer in college... are they really trying to make him a starter?



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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    How bout that three run shot? Like I said he's still got it. Yes I know its early, but he just seems to have a pep in his step right now.



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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneman003 View Post

    Rotation: Zambrano, Dempster, Lilly, and 2 of Silva, Jay Jackson, Free Agents
    Are you intentially leaving out Wells who possibly is the most consistent and under-rated starter on the staff?


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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneman003 View Post
    I think lou is done after this year. next year i say try and get an extension with A-ram, and Nady. Let Lee go and spend that cash on pitching. maybe 1 starter and **** load of bullpen help. Make Nady the everyday 1B because he doesnt really have the arm to play OF anymore. Move Theriot to 2B so starlin is the everyday SS. Try and ditch fukudome so colvin can start everyday. would love to ditch soriano, but its just not possible because no one wants him. next year i would go...

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    2B: Theriot (fontenot backing up this)
    SS: Castro (theriot playing here when castro needs a day)
    3B: Ramirez
    LF: Soriano
    CF: Byrd (a speedy free agent backing this up, but there really isnt going to be many good ones available)
    RF: Colvin
    C: Soto (would like to see someone other than hill backing this up)

    Rotation: Zambrano, Dempster, Lilly, and 2 of Silva, Jay Jackson, Free Agents
    Bullpen: Marmol, Grabow, Caridad, and a whole bunch of free agent help
    Watched Jackson pitch last Friday, not impressed to say the least.



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    Re: Cubs' Cashner to the Rescue?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYdTracked View Post
    Are you intentially leaving out Wells who possibly is the most consistent and under-rated starter on the staff?
    wow. definitely unintentional! i knew i was forgetting someone. yes wells, next to dempster has been the best for the cubs.


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