Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 39
  1. #1
    All-Star
    Points: 51,472, Level: 70
    Level completed: 23%, Points required for next Level: 1,078
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    isukendall's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Fort Collins, CO
    Posts
    1,845
    Points
    51,472
    Level
    70
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 29
    Given: 57

    Fired! What to put on job app....?

    My wife was fired last week, long story short because she was looking into an opening within the same company that was not directly related to her current job. Her boss used the fact that she was looking (and being honest about looking) to justify firing her on grounds of not being focused on her current job. Because she was fired, she will be ineligible for the job she was looking at in the first place.

    She's doing well in the job hunt, but a tough question came up this morning: what do you put on a job application that asks to list all previous jobs, and why you left the job? That's definitely something you don't want to lie about, but at the same time I'd worry that if you wrote you were fired, you might not even get an interview to explain yourself. Any advice here would be appreciated.....



  2. #2
    Pro
    Points: 32,185, Level: 55
    Level completed: 22%, Points required for next Level: 865
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    iowast8fan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Ankeny
    Posts
    2,115
    Points
    32,185
    Level
    55
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 36
    Given: 19

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    Let go due to staffing cuts. If they call her previous employer, all they are legally allowed to say is whether or not she worked there. Anything more sets them up for a potential lawsuit.



  3. #3
    Speechless
    Points: 644,398, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 50.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteranOverdrive
    3TrueFans's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    23,607
    Points
    644,398
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,318
    Given: 125

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    Quote Originally Posted by iowast8fan View Post
    Let go due to staffing cuts. If they call her previous employer, all they are legally allowed to say is whether or not she worked there. Anything more sets them up for a potential lawsuit.
    You sure about them only being able to say whether she worked there? My guess is it's more of a liability thing that would keep them from saying more.



  4. #4
    Legend
    Points: 262,980, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Cyclonestate78's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    11,432
    Points
    262,980
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 168
    Given: 556

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    You sure about them only being able to say whether she worked there? My guess is it's more of a liability thing that would keep them from saying more.
    I believe he is correct. They can't go over anything more then the basic information like your beginning and end date of employment. I don't think they can talk about the TPS report that you always forget to put a coversheet on, or that you cut out of work every morning to go grab coffee with your coworkers.



  5. #5
    Rookie CardinalAndGold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    426
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    Quote Originally Posted by iowast8fan View Post
    Let go due to staffing cuts. If they call her previous employer, all they are legally allowed to say is whether or not she worked there. Anything more sets them up for a potential lawsuit.
    Apparently ethics wasn't a required class at your school?


    "I am so proud... I am so proud to be your football coach!" -- Paul Rhoads

  6. #6
    Legend
    Points: 262,980, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Cyclonestate78's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    11,432
    Points
    262,980
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 168
    Given: 556

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    Quote Originally Posted by CardinalAndGold View Post
    Apparently ethics wasn't a required class at your school?
    Neither did the guy that fired the OP's wife. Talk about a totally bogus reason for terminating someone's employment. Wow. I guess they don't want people looking to move up in that company.



  7. #7
    Speechless
    Points: 450,778, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 18.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    brianhos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Trenchtown
    Posts
    39,578
    Points
    450,778
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 166
    Given: 27

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    Tell the truth. She was looking to move up in the company and her boss fired her because of it.


    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775

  8. #8
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 84,929, Level: 90
    Level completed: 66%, Points required for next Level: 621
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    4,695
    Points
    84,929
    Level
    90
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    You sure about them only being able to say whether she worked there? My guess is it's more of a liability thing that would keep them from saying more.
    He is correct. They can only answer about length of employment and wether or not they would rehire the employee


    "Not at the table Carlos."

  9. #9
    All-Star
    Points: 24,840, Level: 48
    Level completed: 29%, Points required for next Level: 710
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    CYKID's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Clive
    Posts
    1,007
    Points
    24,840
    Level
    48
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 3

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    You shouldn't lie about it. Many people have been fired from jobs and HR people understand this. Hiring is guesswork and firings happen to good people every day. HR people will look at the experience you have and whether it matches their current need. The interview is where you will get a chance to defend being fired.



  10. #10
    Starter
    Points: 18,486, Level: 41
    Level completed: 49%, Points required for next Level: 464
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Lakewood Ranch, FL
    Posts
    721
    Points
    18,486
    Level
    41
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2
    Given: 6

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    The OP's wife should have a discussion with someone higher up at the Company that fired her to let them know that a manager is not interested in employees that want to advance in the Company.

    My guess is that her boss' boss would not like that as a reason to fire a good employee. If she was not a good employee and this is the excuse, then file for unemployment, fight it, and find a better company next time.



  11. #11
    Pro
    Points: 72,870, Level: 83
    Level completed: 84%, Points required for next Level: 280
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    TheCaptain's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Iowa
    Posts
    3,098
    Points
    72,870
    Level
    83
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8
    Given: 3

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    Tell the truth. She was looking to move up in the company and her boss fired her because of it.
    +1
    That was just too obvious.


    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.

  12. #12
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 83,626, Level: 89
    Level completed: 94%, Points required for next Level: 124
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    3,593
    Points
    83,626
    Level
    89
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 15
    Given: 3

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    Quote Originally Posted by JRE1975 View Post
    The OP's wife should have a discussion with someone higher up at the Company that fired her to let them know that a manager is not interested in employees that want to advance in the Company.

    My guess is that her boss' boss would not like that as a reason to fire a good employee. If she was not a good employee and this is the excuse, then file for unemployment, fight it, and find a better company next time.

    Plus 100 on this. If your wife knows anyone else in the company and can prove the reasons behind her dismissal she should push the issue. Not in a fight the system way, but in a way of going concern for her now former employer.

    I would approach a higher manager with the concern, but only with concrete proof. Things like previous performance reviews should be able to show i she was material ready to promote.

    If she makes a professional case she may come out of this better than she thinks.



  13. #13
    Speechless
    Points: 467,729, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 14.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    jdoggivjc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Sterling Heights, MI
    Posts
    31,622
    Points
    467,729
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 467
    Given: 321

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    If the firing was because she was looking to advance her career, I might research/discuss what legal avenues might be available to you as well. I am one of those that usually abhors this overtly litigious society that thinks it's okay to sue if someone over a paper cut, however, IMO, wrongful termination suits don't fall into that purview.


    Chuck Lidell: I paint my toenails with pink and black polish. Problem is, I get more paint on my toes and on the carpet than on my nails. Any advice?
    Maria Sharapova: Don't you beat up other guys for a living? I don't know how to answer this.



  14. #14
    Addict
    Points: 116,810, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    aeroclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    5,935
    Points
    116,810
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 169
    Given: 55

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    You sure about them only being able to say whether she worked there? My guess is it's more of a liability thing that would keep them from saying more.
    I have heard this same thing at my current employer. If contacted, all they will do is confirm that you have worked there.



  15. #15
    Addict
    Points: 93,855, Level: 95
    Level completed: 38%, Points required for next Level: 1,195
    Overall activity: 29.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    acgclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    6,644
    Points
    93,855
    Level
    95
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 235
    Given: 38

    Re: Fired! What to put on job app....?

    I would (and have) tell the truth and explain why she was fired. It sounds like a pretty bogus reason and most hiring managers will understand.

    But in this economic environment, she could easily say that she was downsized and they will obviously buy it.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • Football
  • Iowa State vs. North Dakota State
  • August 30, 2014
  • 11:00 AM