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    BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Guys there was a thread about starting lineups for 2010-2011 and DG was a major topic. Well, I went and looked at Conference on statistics from this past year and compared them with returning point guards for next year. I came up with 8 guys to compare. John Roberson - Texas Tech, Diante Garrett, Jacob Pullen - KSU, Lance Jeter -NU, Nate Tomlinson - CU, Dash Harris - A&M, Keiton Page - OSU and Brady Morningstar - KU. Once again, I compared Conference only statistics for this last year and I looked at Assist per game, Points per game, Rebounds per game, Assist to turnover ration, Total Steals for conference games, FG %, FT % and 3-pt FG %. I assigned 1-8 point s for each catagory in rank from 1 point to the best to 8 points for the worst.

    I know statistics do not mean anything, but alot of peopel like to make fun of DG and say he is not worthy of being a Big 12 point guard, well in terms of Point guards returning he faired pretty well. I will attach my spread sheet for people to look at if they want. However here are the results.

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    So interesting according to statistics John Roberson of TT is the most complete Point Guard in the Big 12, Diante is second and belive it or not Pullen is fifth. I would say Pullen is more of a scoring threat than most, but Roberson of TT scores also and does alot more things statistically better than Pullen. Oh, by the way DG has the best FG % of the bunch in Conference play, my guess is that will surprise some. DG appears to turn the ball over more than he should.

    What does all this mean, not much, but I think that Diante is better than many want to give him credit for, and I think he probably is not quite as good as some want to make him out to be, but if statistics mean anything it tells us we should have one of the better point guards in the Big 12 next season, at least on paper.


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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Brady Morningstar is not a point guard.

    Good work on all the stats though.




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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    I know he really is not, but he really has the best PG statistics of the guys returning. There will be guys that fill in at places like Texas, Missouri, Baylor and KU, were just not sure who they may be.


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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Jnecker4cy would you take DG over Pullen?



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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Jnecker4cy would you take DG over Pullen?
    I do not think I ever said that. I would love to have Jacob Pullen. I was just pointing out statistically DG is a decent point guard. Probably better than some give him credit for. If I had to choose players from that list I would take Pullen and Roberson before DG.


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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    youre righbt it doesnt mean much but kind of interesting good job



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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Jnecker4cy View Post
    I do not think I ever said that. I would love to have Jacob Pullen. I was just pointing out statistically DG is a decent point guard. Probably better than some give him credit for. If I had to choose players from that list I would take Pullen and Roberson before DG.
    I know you didn't say that. I was just asking you a question.



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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    DG is also longer and can play better D than most pgs on that list



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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardman View Post
    DG is also longer and can play better D than most pgs on that list
    Disagree on that. He is not as strong so he struggles to get through the screens. He also isn't as quick as most PG's are



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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    I know you didn't say that. I was just asking you a question.

    Sorry, I like DG, he frustrates me at times, but places great at other times, I think DG has a big weakness, it is concentration, he seems to lose it at times and really make stupid mistakes. He played 34 minutes in conference play everey game and I think he never played a full game always seemed to have 5 minutes of bad play that lead to problems, if he can play next year under control without his moments I think he will be better. Maybe he needs to try to be more of a scorer, he has shown at times he can do it, maybe that will open up his game more and make him better all around. I was very surprised to see his FG% was not only the best, but that high.


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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Jnecker4cy View Post
    I do not think I ever said that. I would love to have Jacob Pullen. I was just pointing out statistically DG is a decent point guard. Probably better than some give him credit for. If I had to choose players from that list I would take Pullen and Roberson before DG.

    his stats arent always the problem... its the it factor, coming through in the clutch, made lay up to missed lay up percentage, 15 pt nights with points that count, etc... ability to drive to the hoop and DRAW THE FOUL, when the offense breaks down... many things. maybe all the guys coming back in the big 12 next season are bad.



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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Disagree on that. He is not as strong so he struggles to get through the screens. He also isn't as quick as most PG's are
    Why do you have to be strong to get through screens? The best way to get through screens is to avoid them (and have good help and communication from your teammates). Do you have to be strong to avoid screens?




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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Quote Originally Posted by khaal53 View Post
    Why do you have to be strong to get through screens? The best way to get through screens is to avoid them (and have good help and communication from your teammates). Do you have to be strong to avoid screens?
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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Quote Originally Posted by khaal53 View Post
    Why do you have to be strong to get through screens? The best way to get through screens is to avoid them (and have good help and communication from your teammates). Do you have to be strong to avoid screens?
    Does DG do a good job getting through screens? No. So what is it? Communication? Strength? Quickness?

    I vote for the last 2.

    I like DG. I think he will be a serviceable guard for us next year



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    Re: BIG 12 Point Guard Statistical Comparison 2010-2011

    Did you take points away for missed layups and times someone dribbled the ball off his leg for an unforced turnover? I'm sure DG leads all Big 12 PGs in those 2 stats...


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