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    So what's the best conference?

    I'd say nobody has clear bragging rights, just a lot of balance. But I've had to eat my words about the Big 12 with nobody in the Final 4.



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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    The Big 12 is the best conference, no matter what sport or year. And if the Big 12 ever disolves and we join the WAC, the WAC would be the best conference in every sport. Just my opinion.


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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Big Sky.

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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    I'd say nobody has clear bragging rights, just a lot of balance. But I've had to eat my words about the Big 12 with nobody in the Final 4.

    I dont think you can say the Big 12 wasnt the toughest just because of a tourney. Just like no one can declare the Wac the best football conference after Boise wins a bowl game. Its the grind of conference pitting teams that know each other, and are really talented against each other every week that makes a conference tough.



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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    If you combine all sports than it has to be the Big 12.

    Football? Top 2 for sure
    Basketball? Top 2 for sure
    Girl bball? Top
    Wrestling? Top 2
    Baseball? Top 2
    Volleyball? Top 2



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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    If you combine all sports than it has to be the Big 12.

    Football? Top 2 for sure
    Basketball? Top 2 for sure
    Girl bball? Top
    Wrestling? Top 2
    Baseball? Top 2
    Volleyball? Top 2
    Not even close.

    Footbal - Best was the SEC, with the Big Ten close second (bowl season and OOC proves it)
    MBB - BigTen/East/12
    WBB - Big 12 (other than UCONN, but Big 12 had more good teams)
    Wrestling - Big Ten (not even close)
    Baseball - SEC


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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by SplitIdentity View Post
    Not even close.

    Footbal - Best was the SEC, with the Big Ten close second (bowl season and OOC proves it)
    MBB - BigTen/East/12
    WBB - Big 12 (other than UCONN, but Big 12 had more good teams)
    Wrestling - Big Ten (not even close)
    Baseball - SEC
    The Big 10 has had one winning bowl season in 7 years and it was (4-3). Their bowl record the last 10 years is THE WORST of any major conference. Get out with that weak stuff!

    I said top 2 for all the others. Was I wrong? Nope

    I seriously can't believe you think the Big 10 is better in football. Look at head to head matchups. Big 12 is winning. Heck the Big 12 North has a winning record against the Big 10 the last 5 years. Look at bowl records.

    As for OOC records. huh? The Big 11 had 1 win over a ranked opponent in the non conference. 1. And that was against Notre Dame! So in reality they beat nobody



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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by SplitIdentity View Post
    Not even close.

    Footbal - Best was the SEC, with the Big Ten close second (bowl season and OOC proves it)
    MBB - BigTen/East/12
    WBB - Big 12 (other than UCONN, but Big 12 had more good teams)
    Wrestling - Big Ten (not even close)
    Baseball - SEC

    Texas was better than Alabama... Colt doesnt get hurt that is a wood shed beating that taking place... Bama got lucky as heck to hold on with a back up qb in for texas. Ill argue that Nebraska was a top 5 team at the end of the year based on the dominate as can be defense.

    Big 10? good bowl season, but no way Iowa was better than Texas, and i would say they would have finished 3rd or 4th in Big 12.



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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedcyclone View Post
    Texas was better than Alabama... Colt doesnt get hurt that is a wood shed beating that taking place... Bama got lucky as heck to hold on with a back up qb in for texas. Ill argue that Nebraska was a top 5 team at the end of the year based on the dominate as can be defense.

    Big 10? good bowl season, but no way Iowa was better than Texas, and i would say they would have finished 3rd or 4th in Big 12.
    Finished 3rd or 4th in the Big 12? Behind who else?

    Texas would not have beaten Alabama. Sorry.

    Only a handful of people would actually argue that this year the Big 12 was better than the Big Ten in football. And those people would be wrong. The Big Ten beat FOUR top 15 teams in the bowl season, including 2 BCS bowl wins. How many top 15 teams did the Big 12 beat? How many BCS bowl victories?


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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    The Big 10 has had one winning bowl season in 7 years and it was (4-3). Their bowl record the last 10 years is THE WORST of any major conference. Get out with that weak stuff!

    I said top 2 for all the others. Was I wrong? Nope

    I seriously can't believe you think the Big 10 is better in football. Look at head to head matchups. Big 12 is winning. Heck the Big 12 North has a winning record against the Big 10 the last 5 years. Look at bowl records.

    As for OOC records. huh? The Big 11 had 1 win over a ranked opponent in the non conference. 1. And that was against Notre Dame! So in reality they beat nobody
    So are we talking about the last 5 years, or last year? If it's the last 5 years I'd give you the Big 12. But if we're talking last year, it was Big Ten in a landslide.

    Big Ten had 4 top 15 wins in the bowl season. Big 12 had 0 :)


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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by SplitIdentity View Post
    So are we talking about the last 5 years, or last year? If it's the last 5 years I'd give you the Big 12. But if we're talking last year, it was Big Ten in a landslide.

    Big Ten had 4 top 15 wins in the bowl season. Big 12 had 0 :)
    Landslide?

    Split you have changed your tune the last couple years. Last year when the Big 10 went 1-6 you said bowl games didn't matter. The Big 10 teams had to much time off, etc. Now? They win 4 games! And it makes them better than the Big 12 in a landslide?

    Big 10 was 1-3 against the Big 12 last year.



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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    The Big 10 has had one winning bowl season in 7 years and it was (4-3). Their bowl record the last 10 years is THE WORST of any major conference. Get out with that weak stuff!
    The Big Ten is far and away the worst conference in bowl games the last 10 years.
    Big 10 28-41
    Big 12 39-38
    Pac 10 28-27
    SEC 46-31
    Big East 25-22
    ACC 45-40

    That being said, bowl games are far from the best way to determine how "good" a conference is.


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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by SplitIdentity View Post
    Finished 3rd or 4th in the Big 12? Behind who else?

    Texas would not have beaten Alabama. Sorry.

    Only a handful of people would actually argue that this year the Big 12 was better than the Big Ten in football. And those people would be wrong. The Big Ten beat FOUR top 15 teams in the bowl season, including 2 BCS bowl wins. How many top 15 teams did the Big 12 beat? How many BCS bowl victories?
    You are right Split. Texas wouldn't have beat Bama with McCoy. Just b/c they were only down 3 with 6 minutes to go in the game...with a true freshman at QB....doesn't mean that they would stand a chance to win a game with a 5th year senior who had won more games than any other QB in NCAA history



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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by SplitIdentity View Post
    Finished 3rd or 4th in the Big 12? Behind who else?

    Texas would not have beaten Alabama. Sorry.

    Only a handful of people would actually argue that this year the Big 12 was better than the Big Ten in football. And those people would be wrong. The Big Ten beat FOUR top 15 teams in the bowl season, including 2 BCS bowl wins. How many top 15 teams did the Big 12 beat? How many BCS bowl victories?
    Really? Did you watch the game? The game I saw looked like Texas played without an offense for a good chunk of the game, and then when the new QB figured it out, they were right there in the game. With McCoy in for the whole game, Texas wins. Probably not a blowout, but there's not a whole lot of question about it...



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    Re: So what's the best conference?

    Quote Originally Posted by cloneu View Post
    The Big Ten is far and away the worst conference in bowl games the last 10 years.
    Big 10 28-41
    Big 12 39-38
    Pac 10 28-27
    SEC 46-31
    Big East 25-22
    ACC 45-40

    That being said, bowl games are far from the best way to determine how "good" a conference is.
    Yep and I agree. Every other conference is over .500 and the Big 10 is 13 games UNDER .500. It's not THE biggest criteria but it is one thing to take a look at



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