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    Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    As a sophomore at Iowa, Thompson shot 31% from the field, 33% from the line and averaged 2.0 points.
    As a freshman at ISU, Cory Johnson shot 53% from the field, 62% from the line and averaged 4.2 points.
    Yet some people seem to think that Thompson is a sure bet as a starter next year and GMac is supposed to run CJ off because he isn't a Big 12 caliber player. Like I said, I don't get it.



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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    it is a what have you done lately world...No one can remember how AT did his first year at Iowa. All anyone remembers from him is that one game winner.


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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    Alex Thompson hit a game winner??? I think Alex has to be the 8th or 9th guy off the bench, no way he gets more than 15 minutes a game. If he does, I wouldn't blame CJ if he transferred



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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCy View Post
    As a sophomore at Iowa, Thompson shot 31% from the field, 33% from the line and averaged 2.0 points.
    As a freshman at ISU, Cory Johnson shot 53% from the field, 62% from the line and averaged 4.2 points.
    Yet some people seem to think that Thompson is a sure bet as a starter next year and GMac is supposed to run CJ off because he isn't a Big 12 caliber player. Like I said, I don't get it.
    Don't try to understand some people, they really don't have a lot of basketball knowledge. CJ is good player and and an asset to have on our team. He was only a freshman last year. Not that Hubalek is a great comparison, but CJ will be better than Jiri some day.



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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    I don't think anybody wants Cory Johnson run off of the team, and obviously Thompson will have to prove he is worth all of the hype he is getting...but one thing to remember about his stats at Iowa, is that Alford was using him at the three, which is not his normal position...he is much more comfortable at the four...and McDermott has been saying that he was our most consistent post player last year in practice....obviously he'll have to do the same when it counts now, but I can about guarantee you he'll get more than 15-20 minutes a game.



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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    The A Train will disprove the doubting Thomases by next dec. No, he will shooty better than 33% at free throw line. He will bang on bodies. He is quicker than Ross. No, he is not Superman. He is more like the fourth option.


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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    Quote Originally Posted by pulse View Post
    Don't try to understand some people, they really don't have a lot of basketball knowledge. CJ is good player and and an asset to have on our team. He was only a freshman last year. Not that Hubalek is a great comparison, but CJ will be better than Jiri some day.
    I just want to know how he compares to the "almighty" Grant Stout. That seems to be the benchmark many on this site have for an excellent inside player.

    You are right about one thing...a lot of people on this site don't have a lot of basketball knowledge.



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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCy View Post
    As a sophomore at Iowa, Thompson shot 31% from the field, 33% from the line and averaged 2.0 points.
    As a freshman at ISU, Cory Johnson shot 53% from the field, 62% from the line and averaged 4.2 points.
    Yet some people seem to think that Thompson is a sure bet as a starter next year and GMac is supposed to run CJ off because he isn't a Big 12 caliber player. Like I said, I don't get it.
    I agree with you completely. Here is another comparison someone made on this board around this time last year:
    • As a freshman, Ross Marsden played 23 minutes/game, shot 53% from the field and 54% from the line, averaged 2.7 points and pulled down 2.7 rebounds/game.
    • As a sophomore, Jiri Hubalek played 20 minutes/game, shot 52% from the field and 73% from the line, averaged 8.6 points and pulled down 3.9 rebounds/game.
    Yet it seemed like 8 out of 10 fans on here preferred Marsden over Hubalek going into the 06-07 season. This despite the fact that Hubalek contributed far more with less playing time.



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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    CJ is sort of in the middle: not big enough to play the post, a little slow for a swing forward, not really a power forward either. I am sure GMac will find a place for him. I really think CJ should have been on a RS this year, but with the short numbers Gmac had to work with he had little choice.

    Also, I have not seen a lot of guys giving huge praise to AT. GMac did say he was the teams most consistant post player, but the other guys that did play were not that impressive.



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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    AT is not as bad as some think...who really cares about one's stats.. I will guarentee that Thompson will be better than Ross Marsden, Jessan Gray, Paul Shirley, etc..just to name a few...

    AT will have to prove himself and I think C. Johnson is good, but i don't know why so many down Thompson, he is a better than most think.



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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    The biggest difference between AT and CJ is size right now. AT has the size to play post in the Big XII and CJ doesn't. Not to say that he won't at some point, but as far as next season goes we will see way more of AT than CJ.



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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    Quote Originally Posted by clone205 View Post
    AT is not as bad as some think...who really cares about one's stats.. I will guarentee that Thompson will be better than Ross Marsden, Jessan Gray, Paul Shirley, etc..just to name a few...

    AT will have to prove himself and I think C. Johnson is good, but i don't know why so many down Thompson, he is a better than most think.
    comparing Paul Shirley to Thompson, Marsden, and Gray is idiotic! Paul played in the NBA and has 2 Big 12 titles by his name. If AT is going to be better than Shirley was then your saying that he'll get a taste in the NBA? I doubt it!


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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    The biggest difference between AT and CJ is size right now. AT has the size to play post in the Big XII and CJ doesn't. Not to say that he won't at some point, but as far as next season goes we will see way more of AT than CJ.
    I remember CJ playing great defense against a certain 7 foot/40 year old freshman this last year. He can really score around the basket as well. I dont think size really matters in college basketball. I just dont think he really had much of a chance. He was one of our last scoring options. And if he made a stupid frosh mistake on D, he was pulled immediately.
    Anyone remember Kenny Pratt? He was a 6'3" PF. And he played pretty well for us. To quote some under endowed men, "its not the size... its what you do with it" He just needs more experience and playing time.


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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone#1 View Post
    I just want to know how he compares to the "almighty" Grant Stout. That seems to be the benchmark many on this site have for an excellent inside player.

    You are right about one thing...a lot of people on this site don't have a lot of basketball knowledge.
    It could be argued that one of those without a lot of basketball knowledge is cyclone#1. He seems to let his negative attitude interfere with his judgment.



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    Re: Thompson vs. CJ, I Don't Get It

    Thompson might not have the stats, but when I hear from someone who works with the team that he is one of the hardest working guys out there and doesn't even know if he is going to be on scholarship it takes away the doubt, he might not be great but at least he is working his butt off to be better, Cory Johnson will be a great player because he has the attitude he just needs to find a spot, Thompson might play more than him next year, but Cory will see his time and might end up being the best out of Thompson, Hubalek and him.


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