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    Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    How many times did Dan Gable say "Back in the day, we would lose the Big 8's, but then win the National Title." He mentioned that at least (3) times during the ISU/Nebraska wrestling dual.

    I didn't think too much about it because I thought we would easily win the Big 12's. For me this is good charma, especially coming from an ISU legend like Gable.



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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    I hate to say it but I think the fight will be for second.



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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    Quote Originally Posted by heyguy85 View Post
    I hate to say it but I think the fight will be for second.
    That may be a positive outcome. I'll cheer them on, but if they can't step up for the Big12s then I'm not sure they will be able to step up for nationals. Let's just hope that in the coming years Jackson can build upon the foundation laid by the departing seniors.



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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    Ward will need to get the wild card and some wrestlers will have to take the Big 12's to heart and wrestle their *** off to redeem themselves. I can really see KJ using the Big 12's as a motivational tool and Nationals being closer than some think.



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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    It's possible, not probable, but possible. I hope it happens.



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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    sorry I like to look at the bright side of things



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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    We need to wrestle well and have Iowa mess up. We have a legit chance at 3 champions (Varner, Reader and Big Z) but realistically we probably will get only Varner. If Iowa only gets Metcalf (somehow) and we got all 3 (assuming everyone else doesn't just lose right away) we have a solid chance....that said, that is a TALL order.


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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    You would need some UI / ISU head to heads...and win them!


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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    Morningstar got hurt at the big 10's and that helps bring Iowa back to the pack some. He likely wouldnt have scored bonus points but could have and likely would have been an AA. If Iowas Beatty is hurt and it hurts him wrestling then we might gain some then. Iowa is really strong at 125, 133, 149, 174 and HWT. All 5 of those guys could do big things. Its still an uphill climb but M* going down helps. Hate to see it happen though. Gallick and M* now.



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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone1306 View Post
    Morningstar got hurt at the big 10's and that helps bring Iowa back to the pack some. He likely wouldnt have scored bonus points but could have and likely would have been an AA. If Iowas Beatty is hurt and it hurts him wrestling then we might gain some then. Iowa is really strong at 125, 133, 149, 174 and HWT. All 5 of those guys could do big things. Its still an uphill climb but M* going down helps. Hate to see it happen though. Gallick and M* now.
    I agree with this. I expect Morningstar to wrestle but how will he be is the big guess. What I think can really help Iowa offset this is the fact that Kerr qualified at 157 which no one expected. Any matches he can win is really bonus points for Iowa, so if he can win just 2 matches and Morningstar wins 2 that would be like Morningstar winning 4 if Kerr didn't qualify and winning 4 would make a person an AA and Iowa wouldn't get those points though. Morningstar and Kerr combined could get 6 to 8 points if Morningstar isn't 100% and doesn't really do anything at nationals and I think with a 3rd place finish last year Morningstar scored around 14.

    I don't think Beatty really got hurt at the Big Ten's, after he lost his semi-final match he just forfeited his 2 remaining matches because he was already a qualifier and not to risk an injury.


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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    M* plans to wrestle, but how effective he will be remains to be seen

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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    I'm not sure Iowa has this locked down anymore



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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    That's big if Morningstall doesn't even wrestle. He was good for at least 10 points.



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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    wishful thinking-but very possible scenarios-
    Long finally beats mcskinny for 3rd place.
    fanny beats dennis for 3rd
    mueller gets an AA of some sort
    reader wins it all
    ward gets his **** together and pulls out an AA
    varner wins it all
    z wins it all.

    if this all somehow magically happens, we would have to be very close if not champs.



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    Re: Lose Big 12's/Win Nationals

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU BET View Post
    wishful thinking-but very possible scenarios-
    Long finally beats mcskinny for 3rd place.
    fanny beats dennis for 3rd
    mueller gets an AA of some sort
    reader wins it all
    ward gets his **** together and pulls out an AA
    varner wins it all
    z wins it all.

    if this all somehow magically happens, we would have to be very close if not champs.
    No offense but that is just about as many ifs as you could hope for. If we get 4 of those I would call it a success. I don't think long will even get to see McDonough(I am assuming that is who you are talking about?). Matt looks like he could end up in the finals. Fan can beat Dennis but I am more worried about him getting beat before that. Mueller will have to step it up and stop chocking to get AA. Reader can easily win it if he comes to wrestle. Ward is just...who knows. And he may not even get a WC. Varner will win it all. Z will have a tough time but can win it, but I see him somewhere 3-5. He tends to have the numbers of Big 12 guys but not others.



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