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    Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player


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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    If the kid is telling the truth, then good for him. But is he telling the truth?



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    Quote Originally Posted by cigaretteman View Post
    Interesting read. It looks like the kid didn't do much wrong, so I hope he gets to play, but I would also hate to see the suspension process in HIGH SCHOOL undercut by lawsuits and appeals. Kind of crazy to think about...



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    Quote Originally Posted by JJ4ISU View Post
    If the kid is telling the truth, then good for him. But is he telling the truth?
    Probably not.



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    Probably not.
    If he was hiding something I think it would be pretty easy to flush out. If he left the party, and then came back, it seems as though he had little or nothing to hide. I would also assume that if he came back he was brethalized. If he's suspended for hanging out with a few friends that were drinking after a game, good for him for challenging it. If you could have gotten suspended for just this at my high school we would have had a difficult time fielding a team.



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    Everyone knows right from wrong. The kid isn't stupid. Everyone knows whether or not the party they are at has alcohol. He had no reason to be there. If he was tired and sleeping at the part, why didn't he go home? This is crazy and if it holds up, it's going to allow other high school kids to get away with being caught at parties and not having to miss any time.



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    This will/could really have an impact on high schools and how they deal with discipline! Not all suspensions of HS athletes stem from police involvement.



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan32 View Post
    If he was hiding something I think it would be pretty easy to flush out. If he left the party, and then came back, it seems as though he had little or nothing to hide. I would also assume that if he came back he was brethalized. If he's suspended for hanging out with a few friends that were drinking after a game, good for him for challenging it. If you could have gotten suspended for just this at my high school we would have had a difficult time fielding a team.
    You think it's going too far to suspend a player from the team for being at a party with alcohol?



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    What's going to happen here is the kid will play and then it will come out that he was rightfully suspened but since the season will be other by then, he will get off scott-free.



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    Quote Originally Posted by heyguy85 View Post
    Everyone knows right from wrong. The kid isn't stupid. Everyone knows whether or not the party they are at has alcohol. He had no reason to be there. If he was tired and sleeping at the part, why didn't he go home? This is crazy and if it holds up, it's going to allow other high school kids to get away with being caught at parties and not having to miss any time.
    Maybe the kid knew there was alcohol, but is taking this chance to challenge a ridiculous rule? You should not be subject to any type of police involvement, and should not be suspended simply for being somewhere that there is underage drinking. I am young enough to not be too far removed from my high school athletic days, and have played sports in different seasons, these rules would have subjected me to suspension on about any weekend-night that I hung out with my friends. While many of my friends played basketball with me, alot of them did not, and they did what the vast majority of high schoolers did (i.e. getting messed up on Keystone and Hawkeye vodka). Not being able to go anywhere where alcohol was present would have completely taken away from my social life, which in all reality is one of the main take-aways from high school.

    This zero-tolerance rule is funny in another regard as well. So we are to punish a sober kid from being around drunk kids, without taking into regard the possible benefits from a kid remaining sober around drunks? We want to discourage the kid that goes to a party, doesn't drink, and is available to take other kids home? We don't want a sober kid present if something were to go wrong and some sort of decisive action need taken? Please...

    Someone needs to look at the aim and purpose of these completley arbitrary rules and realize that punishing a kid for being sober around some friends who are drinking is completely unfair, and I think this type of behavior (suspending before the facts are known) is completely a violation of due process.



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    From the article:

    Sandquist says he attended the party after the team's victory against Urbandale but did not know alcohol was present because he was tired from the game and had been sleeping in a bedroom for two to three hours.
    Cry me a river of tears. If you're tired, go home. Kid is coming off as having a silver spoon shoved in his mouth.

    Edit: BTW, who goes to a high school party to sleep? I"m not buying his cop-out.


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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    Quote Originally Posted by bootcy View Post
    What's going to happen here is the kid will play and then it will come out that he was rightfully suspened but since the season will be other by then, he will get off scott-free.
    Bingo! Or the kid will miss a couple of track meets or baseball games that are early in the season!



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan32 View Post
    Maybe the kid knew there was alcohol, but is taking this chance to challenge a ridiculous rule?
    If this is the case...I would suggest he is picking the wrong time to challenge the rule!



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan32 View Post
    Maybe the kid knew there was alcohol, but is taking this chance to challenge a ridiculous rule? You should not be subject to any type of police involvement, and should not be suspended simply for being somewhere that there is underage drinking. I am young enough to not be too far removed from my high school athletic days, and have played sports in different seasons, these rules would have subjected me to suspension on about any weekend-night that I hung out with my friends. While many of my friends played basketball with me, alot of them did not, and they did what the vast majority of high schoolers did (i.e. getting messed up on Keystone and Hawkeye vodka). Not being able to go anywhere where alcohol was present would have completely taken away from my social life, which in all reality is one of the main take-aways from high school.

    This zero-tolerance rule is funny in another regard as well. So we are to punish a sober kid from being around drunk kids, without taking into regard the possible benefits from a kid remaining sober around drunks? We want to discourage the kid that goes to a party, doesn't drink, and is available to take other kids home? We don't want a sober kid present if something were to go wrong and some sort of decisive action need taken? Please...

    Someone needs to look at the aim and purpose of these completley arbitrary rules and realize that punishing a kid for being sober around some friends who are drinking is completely unfair, and I think this type of behavior (suspending before the facts are known) is completely a violation of due process.
    Stop making so many crazily wrong statements in one post, it's hard to decide which to respond to!



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    Re: Judge Halts SE Polk's Suspension of Player

    When I was in HS, the rule was cut and dried-and everyone who was involved in any activities was well aware of it- If you were caught at a party with alcohol you were going to be suspended.


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