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    Ode for Lucca

    We really miss Lucca Staiger. You can say what you want about his defense, but we really miss his 3-pt ability. Our whole offense was built around our ability to hit the 3 in the half-court, and the team practiced preseason, and played for half the season in that mode. Get the ball inside to CB or MG, kick out for the trey if double-teamed. Staiger was hitting better than 42%, and when SC switched in, he was at 50%.

    We were 2nd in the nation on 3-pt shooting pct according to what the broadcasters have said. We were 12-4, and had a decent start to conference play, having played #1 Texas pretty tough, and stolen one at Lincoln. Lucca even practiced for the TT game, then bails on the team.

    A sick SC gets moved to starting position (granted, he'd been ill for a while), and his ptg is still decent for the first three games (post-LS), but since, he's averaged about 25%, and as a team, we've shot around 29%. Heck, there are a number of games where Lucca made more 3s than the team has, since he left.

    This makes it a lot easier on the opponents. Now they can collapse on the post players, and stuff it up inside, and we can't take advantage with our outside shooting.

    From my perspective, it looks like we have a sound game plan for every opponent, and seem to execute that plan well enough to have a chance at the end. Then someone makes a bad play, or misses the shot we need to get, or the opponent finishes on their end, and its game over.

    I guess my point is, people really hammered LS on his one dimension playing and lack of defense, before he left. But we really miss that one dimension, as well as a rested SC coming off the bench without all the pressure as a sophomore that he has on him right now.

    Add two 3-ptrs by LS in each game we've now played without him, and we would have an additional five wins, including the last two games, and maybe talking Big Dance.

    I know there are a lot of what ifs and coulda shouldas in this thread, but maybe we are the reason he left, and maybe we should've appreciated what he added to the team a little more. Let the hammering begin.


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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    You are reaching here.

    The problem is that this offense made him a one dimensional player. I am fairly certain that he could do more, but in this offense, he was a role player. Look at the roster, there are a lot of role players. How many other teams in this league have as many role players as we do?

    The problem he had was that there were people looking for reasons to be optimistic about the future. So when they watched Lucca shoot the ball, well that was it. So he was advanced as the next guy to come in and turn the whole thing around. There are many examples of this, it isn't just him.

    I remember telling somebody before Lucca even played a game people are going to be so mad when he is an 8 3 and 1 guy.

    Then you hear the coach responding to a legitimate question about how on earth Cal put a 5'8 guy on a 6'6 Lucca, and render him useless. Fine it's a mismatch, let's put Lucca on the block, if they double, he can pass out, if not turn and shoot.

    It seemed like that idea had never even crossed Greg's mind. He said something about how it really wasn't Lucca's strength or something silly like that.

    The kid stayed, and sat out a year. He went to practice everyday, where is the skill development? The many examples of players not developing, the attrition, and the inability to change is why this program is in the shape it is today.



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    I'm glad the **** stain is gone.



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    What decent team did we beat while Lucca was here?



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    Lucca wasn't one-dimensional because of the offense. He is one-dimensional because he's slower and less of a ball handler than what it takes to succeed as a guard in this conference. Often times, he had decided where he was going to pass three seconds before it happened while on the dribble. I see Scotty getting opportunities in the lane, same as Lucca had.



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    What decent team did we beat while Lucca was here?

    Saint Louis. Oh and we won at UNI and Houston last year.



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    Quote Originally Posted by oldman View Post
    We really miss Lucca Staiger
    Not really. He was a non-factor offensively (and defensively) in the Big 12 last year, and he was headed on the same path this year. Either he didn't have the abilities to be a factor night-in and night-out in the Big 12, or his coach didn't understand how to utilize him in such a manner that he would be a consistent factor in Big 12 play.


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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    People can rip on Lucca for being a piece of ****, skipping out on the team, etc. BUT we do miss him. He played much better defense then people here give him credit for. He passed into the post better than anyone else on the team (when we actually post up). And he was by far and away the best shooter on the team. Plus he was 6'5, where as SC is probably closer to 6'1. So Lucca could shoot over guys easier and didn't need to be as open.

    Sure Scotty can take it to the rim from time to time, but we do miss Lucca a lot



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    Lucca was a nice "catch and shoot" player. He was one dimensional and if he wasn't hitting the 3's, he was hurting the team by being out there. He looked great when he would get hot and hit several threes, but he was would have been in a better role if he would have been coming off the bench (kind of like the role he is playing right now). I highly doubt he would have accepted this role.

    He was a defensive liability, did not handle the ball or put the ball on the floor well, and didn't move particularly well without the ball. We are having enough problems guarding the athletic 2-guards in the Big 12, what would Lucca have done? That is a scary question.

    I would be curious to see if he is with the same team next year. Maybe his current team will be able to figure out what he does and does not do.



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazzels View Post
    He was a defensive liability, did not handle the ball or put the ball on the floor well, and didn't move particularly well without the ball. We are having enough problems guarding the athletic 2-guards in the Big 12, what would Lucca have done? That is a scary question.
    No he wasn't. No more than Brackins is defending down low. No more than DG is trying to come through screens. Lucca didn't defend very well last year with the bad knee but his defense was fine this year. He could actually defend dribble penetration this year.

    And Lucca ran around on offense without the ball better than anyone else on the team (which isn't saying anything at all b/c nobody on the team moves on offense)



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazzels View Post
    Lucca was a nice "catch and shoot" player. He was one dimensional and if he wasn't hitting the 3's, he was hurting the team by being out there. He looked great when he would get hot and hit several threes, but he was would have been in a better role if he would have been coming off the bench (kind of like the role he is playing right now). I highly doubt he would have accepted this role.

    He was a defensive liability, did not handle the ball or put the ball on the floor well, and didn't move particularly well without the ball. We are having enough problems guarding the athletic 2-guards in the Big 12, what would Lucca have done? That is a scary question.

    I would be curious to see if he is with the same team next year. Maybe his current team will be able to figure out what he does and does not do.
    Guess what? If Lucca wasn't shooting well or was a liability on defense, we could sub Scott or Colvin for him. However, if he was in the game, the other team has to pay special attention to him and it opens up the middle.



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    Free Lucca!!


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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    Quote Originally Posted by clone52 View Post
    Guess what? If Lucca wasn't shooting well or was a liability on defense, we could sub Scott or Colvin for him. However, if he was in the game, the other team has to pay special attention to him and it opens up the middle.
    Nope. Since Lucca left us mid season that he means he sucked at basketball and shouldn't have even been allowed to practice with Iowa State. He was that bad! Just like Wesley when he left. A lot of people were saying how he wasn't that great anyway (which I defended like crazy)

    Lucca and WJ are pieces of **** for leaving like they did. But they were still key parts of our basketball team and we were better with them on our team. To say otherwise is ludicrous and obviously blinded by hate



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    lucca has played 13 fewer games and has 8 more 3's then anyone on this team this year.... wow



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    Re: Ode for Lucca

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    No he wasn't. No more than Brackins is defending down low. No more than DG is trying to come through screens. Lucca didn't defend very well last year with the bad knee but his defense was fine this year. He could actually defend dribble penetration this year.

    And Lucca ran around on offense without the ball better than anyone else on the team (which isn't saying anything at all b/c nobody on the team moves on offense)
    Last night was the best that DG played defense on the perimeter all year. The rest of the year it was Pathetic. Let's give the opponents open three point shots seems to be the philospophy.

    SC has been schooled over and over with people going off for their career highs.

    Booze is out and at least he could foul people to slow them down. He even had 19 points in his last game.

    Buckley is worse. He cannot even commit the second foul made when he is told.

    Lucca actually made a few defensive plays outside and if the player slipped through Ham could slow him down.

    Colvin cannot shoot worth beans yet. he needs to shoot a few hundred thousand shots over the summer. Yes, he is a great passer, but we need to be able to catch them. So opponents want him to shoot and not pass.

    We are really missing too many pieces to have a decent team. McD's offense is predicated on having at least one three point shooter. We now have none by looking at our accomplishments in the last three games.

    Looks to me like we need some rougher practices to face adversity before game time starts.

    looking to see Booze as a starter at guard next season


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