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    Interesting question

    Interesting to me anyway, and I know it doesn't do much good re-hashing the past except for conversation and to imagine what might have happened. I wonder if Morgan hadn't been canned if we might have HB coming to ISU next year. That's assuming Morgan continued to have big wins and post season success, and that's realistic to expect considering the success in his first 3 years. Add in the fact that HB was playing for Jake Sullivan and Sully likely would have steered HB to ISU. HB might have been excited about taking ISU from good to great. Wow, what might have been.



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    Re: Interesting question

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    Interesting to me anyway, and I know it doesn't do much good re-hashing the past except for conversation and to imagine what might have happened. I wonder if Morgan hadn't been canned if we might have HB coming to ISU next year. That's assuming Morgan continued to have big wins and post season success, and that's realistic to expect considering the success in his first 3 years. Add in the fact that HB was playing for Jake Sullivan and Sully likely would have steered HB to ISU. HB might have been excited about taking ISU from good to great. Wow, what might have been.
    Yup it was a terrible time to be bad. I think Floyd would have got him to stay too. Although Gmac and HB were apparently pretty close.



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    Re: Interesting question

    Without getting into the rest of your hypothetical, I don't think Sullivan would've "steered" HB anywhere. I really think he was just trying to do what was best for HB all along.




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    Re: Interesting question

    HB had a plan to go to NC. I dont think we were ever in the running. Hypotheticals are fun, but that kid wanted instant success and ISU is not a school that provides that athletically.



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    Re: Interesting question

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    Interesting to me anyway, and I know it doesn't do much good re-hashing the past except for conversation and to imagine what might have happened. I wonder if Morgan hadn't been canned if we might have HB coming to ISU next year. That's assuming Morgan continued to have big wins and post season success, and that's realistic to expect considering the success in his first 3 years. Add in the fact that HB was playing for Jake Sullivan and Sully likely would have steered HB to ISU. HB might have been excited about taking ISU from good to great. Wow, what might have been.

    It's a pretty big if to assume that Wayne was going to keep winning and going to post season. Who exactly did he have coming in for the next year? We know that Stinson and Blalock would have been gone. Probably Carr. Are we sure he would have gotten good enough players to compete that year?



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    Re: Interesting question

    Quote Originally Posted by bos View Post
    HB had a plan to go to NC. I dont think we were ever in the running. Hypotheticals are fun, but that kid wanted instant success and ISU is not a school that provides that athletically.
    Well early in high school he was all about ISU, but that soon changed. Also i really dont think he liked or valued jake very much as he was quick to jump at the chance to play for howard pulley



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    Re: Interesting question

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    Interesting to me anyway, and I know it doesn't do much good re-hashing the past except for conversation and to imagine what might have happened. I wonder if Morgan hadn't been canned if we might have HB coming to ISU next year. That's assuming Morgan continued to have big wins and post season success, and that's realistic to expect considering the success in his first 3 years. Add in the fact that HB was playing for Jake Sullivan and Sully likely would have steered HB to ISU. HB might have been excited about taking ISU from good to great. Wow, what might have been.
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    Re: Interesting question

    Quote Originally Posted by jsb View Post
    It's a pretty big if to assume that Wayne was going to keep winning and going to post season. Who exactly did he have coming in for the next year? We know that Stinson and Blalock would have been gone. Probably Carr. Are we sure he would have gotten good enough players to compethe that year?
    Stinson and blalock only went pro because wayne got canned, they would have been back. Also we had a great backcourt coming in with lawerence westbrook and P allen Stinnet.



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    Re: Interesting question

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    Interesting to me anyway, and I know it doesn't do much good re-hashing the past except for conversation and to imagine what might have happened. I wonder if Morgan hadn't been canned if we might have HB coming to ISU next year. That's assuming Morgan continued to have big wins and post season success, and that's realistic to expect considering the success in his first 3 years. Add in the fact that HB was playing for Jake Sullivan and Sully likely would have steered HB to ISU. HB might have been excited about taking ISU from good to great. Wow, what might have been.
    If the LE situation had been handled correctly, and LE was therefore still our coach, HB might be coming to ISU next year. That is assuming that LE would have sustained the momentum that back to back Big 12 titles creates.


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    Re: Interesting question

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    Stinson and blalock only went pro because wayne got canned, they would have been back. Also we had a great backcourt coming in with lawerence westbrook and P allen Stinnet.

    No, they had declared before Wayne was fired. They were gone either way.



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    Re: Interesting question

    Barnes consistently said he wanted to play for a national championship contender. We are lucky North Carolina and Duke recruited him, otherwise he'd be a jayhawk.



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    Re: Interesting question

    Quote Originally Posted by jsb View Post
    No, they had declared before Wayne was fired. They were gone either way.
    But they knew it was coming



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    Re: Interesting question

    Only way HB ends up at ISU is if he wasn't good enough to be recruited by all the tope teams.



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    Re: Interesting question

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    But they knew it was coming

    Oh please, they didn't know it was coming. No one knew it was coming. And according to McDermott last week, both players stopped going to class the 2nd semester b/c they knew they were going to declare for the draft.



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    But they knew it was coming

    So WM was shocked he was fired, yet his players knew it before him. got it.



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