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    Who's arrogant enough...

    to take a pay cut at ISU? I was thinking about this after all the people in the "moving on" thread talking about how they think we would need to lure in a "big name" coach to reinvigorate the program. People always talk about the size of the egos on a lot of successful coaches. Are there coaches out there that would take less money solely to prove they could get it done anywhere they went? Who do you think that might be?



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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    to take a pay cut at ISU? I was thinking about this after all the people in the "moving on" thread talking about how they think we would need to lure in a "big name" coach to reinvigorate the program. People always talk about the size of the egos on a lot of successful coaches. Are there coaches out there that would take less money solely to prove they could get it done anywhere they went? Who do you think that might be?
    no one. gonna have to "show them the money."


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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    That is not the way things work.


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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    to take a pay cut at ISU? I was thinking about this after all the people in the "moving on" thread talking about how they think we would need to lure in a "big name" coach to reinvigorate the program. People always talk about the size of the egos on a lot of successful coaches. Are there coaches out there that would take less money solely to prove they could get it done anywhere they went? Who do you think that might be?
    Whatchu talkin bout Willis?



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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    coach mac. taking a pay cut to coach at isu is so unlikely not to mention if someone did that it would be so far from arrogant.



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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    Taking a pay cut to coach somewhere would be the opposite of arrogant.



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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    If you mean from school to school it depends. I think there are some that would do it. I think PR would have done it had he been coaching somewhere else for more money. You would take the pay cut possibly to go to your alma mater.


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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    Why would a hot name coach do that? He would have a good gig where he was and would be able to wait for the job he wanted for the right money. If there is a change the way ISU has treated its last 3 coaches would be a big red flag for any coach. If anything ISU will have to overpay to get the right coach to Ames.


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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    Maybe arrogant was a bad choice of words. Confident might be better. Would there be someone that is that sure of themselves as a coach that they don't need to be at a "name" program to repeat their success. Someone that's made their money and would have the type of personality to do it just to prove they can.



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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    Nope.



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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    MNCYGUY....let's assume you are successful at whatever it is you do. Would you take a pay cut to go to a similar company that sucks to see if you can make that company less sucky? I don't think most would. Even if you had already made your nut, there is not upside in doing so. If you go there and the new company still sucks, they suck because of you now. Too much downside for something like that to happen. Just my two cents...


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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    I didn't think it was some reasonable thing. Just trying to wrap my mind around the perspective of all these people advocating a "big splash" hire. In what way does that scenario come to be?



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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    Quote Originally Posted by im4isu View Post
    MNCYGUY....let's assume you are successful at whatever it is you do. Would you take a pay cut to go to a similar company that sucks to see if you can make that company less sucky? I don't think most would. Even if you had already made your nut, there is not upside in doing so. If you go there and the new company still sucks, they suck because of you now. Too much downside for something like that to happen. Just my two cents...
    Does the company have better people to work with? Is there a good upside to the company? If I succeed, will I be respected within the company? Are administrators in other sections of the business great people who are willing to support you?

    Personally-Is the pay cut so large you cannot live off of it? Are you still able to give your family what they need to live a great life? Is the location somewhere that is good to raise a family in?


    I post these questions because I do think they are important in the discussion of this. As far as a pay cut, let's not take that for simple face value. You will still make a great living in our coaching instance which may not be the case in a different position. Ames in itself has a lot to offer. I think it would be a good place to raise a family. I think our athletic department is very cooperative and obviously patient, more than willing to be fair. The other coaches within the system are great people.

    I know what you're saying, I just think there are a lot of things that, to the right person, would draw them here. Will we be able to find the Bball version of PR, or a WBB version of BF, or a Vball version of Christy? I don't know, maybe. The key would be to find the person that wants to be at ISU for all the reasons I stated, not the guy who wants to be here to make a bunch of money and possibly move on. I know the idea that this person exists may be unreasonable but I would have said the pre-PR too.


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    Re: Who's arrogant enough...

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    Taking a pay cut to coach somewhere would be the opposite of arrogant.
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