Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 31
  1. #1
    Rookie
    Points: 12,746, Level: 34
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 604
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Des Moines, now Tucson
    Posts
    425
    Points
    12,746
    Level
    34
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    I recently found out

    that former CU Football coach Bill McCartney is in charge of this religious organization called "Promise Keepers". Kind of the Ted Haggard or Rick Warren type of religion. I was honestly shocked that McCartney would be in charge of something like this because he coached the University of Colorado. Doesn't Boulder have a large atheist population? Maybe Boulder was different in the 80s and early 90s but still.

    Don't mistake this post as judgment on McCartney. I have never really dug religion let alone that type of religion, but if that is what he enjoys, so be it. As long as it doesn't terrorize other people, I'm fine with any religious organization.



  2. #2
    Speechless
    Points: 945,170, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 54.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    CycloneErik's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Jamerica
    Posts
    64,797
    Points
    945,170
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8,171
    Given: 6,996

    Re: I recently found out

    That's what he moved on to do, if I remember correctly at all.

    This is realllllly old news.


    Kansas Must Be Destroyed

    Sic Semper Jayhawks




    http://rememberingdoria.wordpress.com/

  3. #3
    Speechless
    Points: 827,372, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    Cyclonepride's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    A pineapple under the sea
    Posts
    58,254
    Points
    827,372
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8,678
    Given: 3,873

    Re: I recently found out

    Does coaching among a large atheist population make you an atheist?



  4. #4
    Addict
    Points: 66,985, Level: 80
    Level completed: 34%, Points required for next Level: 1,065
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Cyclonesrule91's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Waukee
    Posts
    5,018
    Points
    66,985
    Level
    80
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 89
    Given: 300

    Re: I recently found out

    This news is so yesterdays news, or maybe last decades. And it's a very good organization too by the way.



  5. #5
    Addict
    Points: 150,228, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    jaretac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Frigidaire
    Posts
    7,644
    Points
    150,228
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5
    Given: 0

    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    That's what he moved on to do, if I remember correctly at all.

    This is realllllly old news.
    Really old, I went to a Promise Keepers in the King dome in Seattle with my dad one year. Also, Promise Keepers is not a religion.



  6. #6
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 78,437, Level: 87
    Level completed: 5%, Points required for next Level: 1,713
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    cyfan964's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    4 blocks from the Jack
    Posts
    4,766
    Points
    78,437
    Level
    87
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 302
    Given: 560

    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by jaretac View Post
    Really old, I went to a Promise Keepers in the King dome in Seattle with my dad one year. Also, Promise Keepers is not a religion.
    I've been to Promise Keepers in Minneapolis with my father as well. It's actually a cool organization if you're a believer.


    Now that MBB is back, do we still have to pretend that WBB matters?

    -acgclone

  7. #7
    Pro
    Points: 30,393, Level: 53
    Level completed: 59%, Points required for next Level: 457
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    2,572
    Points
    30,393
    Level
    53
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 91
    Given: 69

    Re: I recently found out

    Man lands on Moon



  8. #8
    Speechless
    Points: 586,409, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 13.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsOverdriveVeteranRecommendation Second Class
    ISUAgronomist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Close Enough, IA
    Posts
    22,271
    Points
    586,409
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,128
    Given: 642

    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by 83Clone View Post
    Man lands on Moon

    "WE'VE LANDED ON THE MOON!!!" - Dumb&Dumber.



  9. #9
    All-Star
    Points: 23,596, Level: 47
    Level completed: 5%, Points required for next Level: 954
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran10000 Experience Points
    Nedrick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Carroll, IA
    Posts
    1,267
    Points
    23,596
    Level
    47
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: I recently found out

    If you want some background on PromiseKeepers (or PK), here's their website.
    (Basically an organization to help men lives better lives)



  10. #10
    Rookie
    Points: 12,746, Level: 34
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 604
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Des Moines, now Tucson
    Posts
    425
    Points
    12,746
    Level
    34
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    Does coaching among a large atheist population make you an atheist?
    No it doesn't necessarily. The reason I was kind of shocked about McCartney being involved in religion is because I had always thought of Colorado football to be kind of a borderline program that has made unorthodox moves at times. I was born in 78, so I don't remember much of the McCartney era. I just assumed that Bill was similar to Slick Rick or Gary Barnett. Not saying Neuheisel and Barnett are atheists, but if someone told me that Gary Barnett established a religious organization I would ask what the temperature in hell was.



  11. #11
    Prospect Achievements:
    Veteran1000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    52
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: I recently found out

    When he was running the show in Boulder and they were at their peak, he was recruiting a lot of gang bangers out of LA. Ray Caruthe, one of his former players had his pregnant girl friend shot and killed so he didn't have to pay child support. Sal Annuse was the father of one of his grandsons. Although this doesn't make him a bad person, it sort of flies in the face of the "holier than thou" image that the promise keepers try to sell.



  12. #12
    All-Star
    Points: 20,142, Level: 43
    Level completed: 33%, Points required for next Level: 608
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    cmhawks99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Bourbonnais, Il
    Posts
    1,240
    Points
    20,142
    Level
    43
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSnob View Post
    No it doesn't necessarily. The reason I was kind of shocked about McCartney being involved in religion is because I had always thought of Colorado football to be kind of a borderline program that has made unorthodox moves at times. I was born in 78, so I don't remember much of the McCartney era. I just assumed that Bill was similar to Slick Rick or Gary Barnett. Not saying Neuheisel and Barnett are atheists, but if someone told me that Gary Barnett established a religious organization I would ask what the temperature in hell was.

    With all due respect intended that's kind of what's wrong with the world today. Perceptions and assumptions and just out and out not really knowing at all, but unencumbered to make a statement all the same. The irony is the "religious right" is called closed minded and brain dead, yet here we go...............

    Chad



  13. #13
    All-Star
    Points: 20,142, Level: 43
    Level completed: 33%, Points required for next Level: 608
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    cmhawks99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Bourbonnais, Il
    Posts
    1,240
    Points
    20,142
    Level
    43
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by cutshot View Post
    When he was running the show in Boulder and they were at their peak, he was recruiting a lot of gang bangers out of LA. Ray Caruthe, one of his former players had his pregnant girl friend shot and killed so he didn't have to pay child support. Sal Annuse was the father of one of his grandsons. Although this doesn't make him a bad person, it sort of flies in the face of the "holier than thou" image that the promise keepers try to sell.
    And here we go part 2.................................I've always loved the irony behind someone calling someone else holier than thou. Do people really not get it. You can't call someone judgmental, arrogant or holier than thou, without placing your self in a position above them?!??! It's just funny to me.

    Chad


    Last edited by cmhawks99; 02-03-2010 at 10:31 PM.

  14. #14
    Speechless
    Points: 299,238, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 40.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Cydkar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    18,647
    Points
    299,238
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,467
    Given: 1,918

    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by 83Clone View Post
    Man lands on Moon
    Caveman sees moon.



  15. #15
    Addict
    Points: 112,687, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    6,705
    Points
    112,687
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 251
    Given: 298

    Re: I recently found out

    If I remember the story correctly, McCartney's daughter got pregnant by one of his players out of wedlock and he felt terrible about spending too much time at work and not being home for his family and helping in their upbringing. In an effort to help other men not duplicate his mistake, he started Promise Keepers.
    I have not been to a convention, but have never heard a single negative thing from men who have attended.


    Exaggeration is a BILLION times worse than understating.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: ESPN
  • HOOPS: Iowa State vs. Texas
  • February 13, 2016
  • 07:30 PM