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    I recently found out

    that former CU Football coach Bill McCartney is in charge of this religious organization called "Promise Keepers". Kind of the Ted Haggard or Rick Warren type of religion. I was honestly shocked that McCartney would be in charge of something like this because he coached the University of Colorado. Doesn't Boulder have a large atheist population? Maybe Boulder was different in the 80s and early 90s but still.

    Don't mistake this post as judgment on McCartney. I have never really dug religion let alone that type of religion, but if that is what he enjoys, so be it. As long as it doesn't terrorize other people, I'm fine with any religious organization.



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    Re: I recently found out

    That's what he moved on to do, if I remember correctly at all.

    This is realllllly old news.


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    Re: I recently found out

    Does coaching among a large atheist population make you an atheist?



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    Re: I recently found out

    This news is so yesterdays news, or maybe last decades. And it's a very good organization too by the way.



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    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    That's what he moved on to do, if I remember correctly at all.

    This is realllllly old news.
    Really old, I went to a Promise Keepers in the King dome in Seattle with my dad one year. Also, Promise Keepers is not a religion.



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    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by jaretac View Post
    Really old, I went to a Promise Keepers in the King dome in Seattle with my dad one year. Also, Promise Keepers is not a religion.
    I've been to Promise Keepers in Minneapolis with my father as well. It's actually a cool organization if you're a believer.


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    Re: I recently found out

    Man lands on Moon



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    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by 83Clone View Post
    Man lands on Moon

    "WE'VE LANDED ON THE MOON!!!" - Dumb&Dumber.



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    Re: I recently found out

    If you want some background on PromiseKeepers (or PK), here's their website.
    (Basically an organization to help men lives better lives)



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    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    Does coaching among a large atheist population make you an atheist?
    No it doesn't necessarily. The reason I was kind of shocked about McCartney being involved in religion is because I had always thought of Colorado football to be kind of a borderline program that has made unorthodox moves at times. I was born in 78, so I don't remember much of the McCartney era. I just assumed that Bill was similar to Slick Rick or Gary Barnett. Not saying Neuheisel and Barnett are atheists, but if someone told me that Gary Barnett established a religious organization I would ask what the temperature in hell was.



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    Re: I recently found out

    When he was running the show in Boulder and they were at their peak, he was recruiting a lot of gang bangers out of LA. Ray Caruthe, one of his former players had his pregnant girl friend shot and killed so he didn't have to pay child support. Sal Annuse was the father of one of his grandsons. Although this doesn't make him a bad person, it sort of flies in the face of the "holier than thou" image that the promise keepers try to sell.



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    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSnob View Post
    No it doesn't necessarily. The reason I was kind of shocked about McCartney being involved in religion is because I had always thought of Colorado football to be kind of a borderline program that has made unorthodox moves at times. I was born in 78, so I don't remember much of the McCartney era. I just assumed that Bill was similar to Slick Rick or Gary Barnett. Not saying Neuheisel and Barnett are atheists, but if someone told me that Gary Barnett established a religious organization I would ask what the temperature in hell was.

    With all due respect intended that's kind of what's wrong with the world today. Perceptions and assumptions and just out and out not really knowing at all, but unencumbered to make a statement all the same. The irony is the "religious right" is called closed minded and brain dead, yet here we go...............

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    Re: I recently found out

    Quote Originally Posted by cutshot View Post
    When he was running the show in Boulder and they were at their peak, he was recruiting a lot of gang bangers out of LA. Ray Caruthe, one of his former players had his pregnant girl friend shot and killed so he didn't have to pay child support. Sal Annuse was the father of one of his grandsons. Although this doesn't make him a bad person, it sort of flies in the face of the "holier than thou" image that the promise keepers try to sell.
    And here we go part 2.................................I've always loved the irony behind someone calling someone else holier than thou. Do people really not get it. You can't call someone judgmental, arrogant or holier than thou, without placing your self in a position above them?!??! It's just funny to me.

    Chad


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    Quote Originally Posted by 83Clone View Post
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    Re: I recently found out

    If I remember the story correctly, McCartney's daughter got pregnant by one of his players out of wedlock and he felt terrible about spending too much time at work and not being home for his family and helping in their upbringing. In an effort to help other men not duplicate his mistake, he started Promise Keepers.
    I have not been to a convention, but have never heard a single negative thing from men who have attended.


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