Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 47
  1. #1
    Starter
    Points: 24,892, Level: 48
    Level completed: 35%, Points required for next Level: 658
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Ankeny
    Posts
    781
    Points
    24,892
    Level
    48
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    here and healthy...would our record be any different?

    Can a case be made for the Tech and OU games???


    "Unless a man is born again, he will not see the Kingdom of Heaven" John 3:3

  2. #2
    Speechless
    Points: 559,601, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsOverdriveVeteranRecommendation Second Class
    ISUAgronomist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Back in Iowa!!!!!!!!
    Posts
    21,285
    Points
    559,601
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 153
    Given: 78

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    They're not. Lets focus on the team we have and look forward to the good things they can still do.



  3. #3
    Pro
    Points: 68,872, Level: 81
    Level completed: 49%, Points required for next Level: 878
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    CycloneWarning's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    2,351
    Points
    68,872
    Level
    81
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 35
    Given: 16

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    Quote Originally Posted by larrysarmy View Post
    here and healthy...would our record be any different?

    Can a case be made for the Tech and OU games???
    OU was missing arguably their best two players, and we are debating whether some role players would have made a difference for us?

    Glad to see the excuse machine is getting cranked up into high gear. Time to extend GMac again. He just can't catch a break and needs more time.



  4. #4
    Legend
    Points: 166,730, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 32.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    The_Architect's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Focus Town
    Posts
    11,327
    Points
    166,730
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 219
    Given: 839

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    IMO, having a healthy Vanderbeeken all season could have mattered in a few games. I think he was expected to be a big contributor this season with the matchup problems he creates due to his ability to nail the 3-ball.


    While on live TV, Ford used a vulgar term to describe a private part of the female anatomy, adding that he was “happily married” and “got more than enough to eat at home.”

  5. #5
    Speechless
    Points: 312,388, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 33.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    bawbie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Cedar Rapids, IA
    Posts
    18,130
    Points
    312,388
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 378
    Given: 945

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWarning View Post

    Glad to see the excuse machine is getting cranked up into high gear. Time to extend GMac again. He just can't catch a break and needs more time.
    Seriously? Asking a hypothetical is excuse making in your book?

    And you are still harping on the extension, even though it's been thoroughly explained over and over?

    give it a rest.



  6. #6
    Speechless
    Points: 355,853, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialYour first GroupRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Tre4ISU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Estherville
    Posts
    18,900
    Points
    355,853
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 302
    Given: 39

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWarning View Post
    OU was missing arguably their best two players, and we are debating whether some role players would have made a difference for us?

    Glad to see the excuse machine is getting cranked up into high gear. Time to extend GMac again. He just can't catch a break and needs more time.
    If you don't think having JVB healthy all year would have made a difference in games then you are a little bit off base. Depth at any time helps. I don't know that it makes the difference between winning or losing but you can definitely make a case for us being better with those players, especially JVB and Boozer.

    No one mentioned Mac in this thread. FYI, every thread about basketball doesn't have to involve how much of a failure Mac is as a coach. There are other things to talk about as far as basketball goes.


    I'm on Twitter too: Tre4ISU

    Or so I have read.

  7. #7
    Starter
    Points: 17,329, Level: 40
    Level completed: 10%, Points required for next Level: 721
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    Clonebydesign's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    962
    Points
    17,329
    Level
    40
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 18
    Given: 23

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    Quote Originally Posted by larrysarmy View Post
    here and healthy...would our record be any different?

    Can a case be made for the Tech and OU games???
    Nope not at all





    Torrent Brewing Company

    KICKSTARTER project ENDS Monday!

  8. #8
    Just Win Baby
    Points: 302,578, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Clones85''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,339
    Points
    302,578
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3
    Given: 0

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    Quote Originally Posted by isuaggie View Post
    They're not. Lets focus on the team we have and look forward to the good things they can still do.
    Well no kidding they are not. Nothing wrong with the OP asking a question to open up discussion....on a message board



  9. #9
    Pro
    Points: 68,872, Level: 81
    Level completed: 49%, Points required for next Level: 878
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    CycloneWarning's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    2,351
    Points
    68,872
    Level
    81
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 35
    Given: 16

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    Seriously? Asking a hypothetical is excuse making in your book?
    Just noticing a trend. Here is another recent post this morning:

    "But whatever plans they had for this team went up in smoke with injuries to Boozer and JVB, Colvin's therapeutic pine time, Staiger's defection, and now Christopherson's mono."



  10. #10
    Addict
    Points: 85,670, Level: 91
    Level completed: 7%, Points required for next Level: 1,780
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    BigBake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    U'dale
    Posts
    5,551
    Points
    85,670
    Level
    91
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8
    Given: 36
    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWarning View Post
    Just noticing a trend. Here is another recent post this morning:

    "But whatever plans they had for this team went up in smoke with injuries to Boozer and JVB, Colvin's therapeutic pine time, Staiger's defection, and now Christopherson's mono."
    So a statement of the truth bothers you somehow?



  11. #11
    Publisher
    Points: 773,497, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 34.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation First ClassVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    ChrisMWilliams's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    15,819
    Points
    773,497
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 515
    Given: 146

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    Great question OP. In my mind, this team would have beaten both Tech and OU. I have a feeling that the OU game will be the one that we look back on at the end of the season and say "that's the worst loss, that we should have won" this season.

    A current Big 12 assistant coach (not from Iowa State) told me last week that he believes Colorado is a better all-around basketball team than Oklahoma or Texas Tech.



  12. #12
    Speechless
    Points: 335,044, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    ISUFan22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Grimes, IA
    Posts
    31,730
    Points
    335,044
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 73
    Given: 152

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    A difference would have been made, but I'm not convinced it would have led to wins. This team was showing signs of major issues before the injury bug struck.



  13. #13
    Speechless
    Points: 210,403, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 40.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    16,181
    Points
    210,403
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 424
    Given: 213

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    Maybe a game better, and thats a big maybe. I think we are a little bit worse of a team without those 3, but we weren't really playing any better with them, so the difference is pretty minimal.



  14. #14
    Speechless
    Points: 210,403, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 40.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    16,181
    Points
    210,403
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 424
    Given: 213

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    Seriously? Asking a hypothetical is excuse making in your book?

    And you are still harping on the extension, even though it's been thoroughly explained over and over?

    give it a rest.
    That extension can be explained over and over, but it was still a ridiculous mistake (as it would be with any coach, not just Gmac. No coach needs a 9-year contract to rebuild a program, and under no circumstances should a coach EVER get a contract extension because one player was suspended for 6 games for driving the wrong car. No legitimate justification for that).



  15. #15
    Pro
    Points: 68,872, Level: 81
    Level completed: 49%, Points required for next Level: 878
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    CycloneWarning's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    2,351
    Points
    68,872
    Level
    81
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 35
    Given: 16

    Re: IF...Booz, JVB and Lucca were still...

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBake View Post
    So a statement of the truth bothers you somehow?
    Not at all. My opinion is that we have had years of excuses and I am now noticing a trend that more and more posts are bringing up JVB, etc as a possible excuse for some of our losses.

    Just pointed out that OU was missing two great players. CU was missing one of its best players and still almost beat us on our home court. Teams generally have these issues during a season. [Queue series of posts that our bad luck > their bad luck]. Good coaches and teams rise above them.

    Does it bother you that I am free to post my opinion?



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • Football
  • Iowa State vs. North Dakota State
  • August 30, 2014
  • 11:00 AM