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    AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    Just saw on the news that American Airlines is finally getting rid of the old MD-80's, most of which are about 17+ years old. They are replacing them with 737's...

    Now if Northwest would just get rid of the 30 year old DC-9s...



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    I'll gladly trade any of those 30 year old planes for those oh so comfortable Canadair regional jets.

    At least those DC-9's have 1st class, for us frequent flyers.



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    Quote Originally Posted by herbicide View Post
    I'll gladly trade any of those 30 year old planes for those oh so comfortable Canadair regional jets.

    At least those DC-9's have 1st class, for us frequent flyers.
    Give me the CRJ anyday. Let someone else deal with the DC-9's 30-yr old fatigued airframe. At least NW painted some of the DC-9's a few year ago to cover up the corroding rivets on the wings.

    My biggest gripe with the MD-80/DC-9 are the engines. Too small...the thing takes to darn long to get off the ground for my liking.

    DC-9-50: 135 passengers with 16,000 lbs thrust per engine
    MD-81: 155 passengers with 18,500 lbf thrust per engine
    Boeing 717: 102 passengers with 18,600 lbf thrust per engine

    For those who care, the MD-80 followed the DC-9, and the 717 was the redesigned version sold by Boeing after it acquired MD's commercial aircraft business.

    Now why is it that the Boeing version is carrying 50 less passengers with virtually the same engine thrust? My guess is that a Boeing engineer had to ride on an DC-9/MD-80 one day and wet his pants during takeoff...



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    I was crew chief for the CRJ. Trust me, you don't want to keep it that much. Overstressed engines and it lands like an f*ing lawndart. My first ride "up front" on the jump seat gave me a frigging heart attack on landing.

    And God forbid you experience icing on one. They sacrificed lift for speed in the wing.



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    Quote Originally Posted by herbiedoobie View Post
    I was crew chief for the CRJ. Trust me, you don't want to keep it that much. Overstressed engines and it lands like an f*ing lawndart. My first ride "up front" on the jump seat gave me a frigging heart attack on landing.

    And God forbid you experience icing on one. They sacrificed lift for speed in the wing.
    Plus CRJs are EXTREMELY cramped. Big guys like me have to fold ourselves in half to squeeze in. IMO, nothing flown should be smaller than a 737. However, the CRJs are A LOT nicer than the turbo-props that used to be flown out of the QC Airport...


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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    Just put me in the seat of a Piper Arrow and I can get anywhere. It might take awhile and I cant carry much but I will get there and wont have to check my baggage, worry about security, or wait at the ticket counter.



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    I thought you were talking about Arn Anderson.



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Plus CRJs are EXTREMELY cramped. Big guys like me have to fold ourselves in half to squeeze in. IMO, nothing flown should be smaller than a 737. However, the CRJs are A LOT nicer than the turbo-props that used to be flown out of the QC Airport...
    Ed Zachary. I'm 6'4", and I sleep thru most flights. Those CRJ's are like a torture chamber for me. There is no 1st class, and there is not even any relief in the exit rows.



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    Quote Originally Posted by herbicide View Post
    Ed Zachary. I'm 6'4", and I sleep thru most flights. Those CRJ's are like a torture chamber for me. There is no 1st class, and there is not even any relief in the exit rows.
    C'mon guys, suck it up!!! I'm 6"2, my company never springs for first class, and I can't afford it for personal trips. Usually when I fly on NW, I have to take the CRJ from DFW to MSP, and then hop on the infamous NW Airlink Saab turbojet to get to my final destination. No one every promised (me at least) a life of luxury or full leg-room flights. It's not like we're flying to Austrailia on the CRJ...



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    I fly a lot and it is a continuing disappointment that the larger jet service is being replaced more and more by the CRJ and other jets that are way too small for guys my size. I pick my flights based on the type of jets and it is getting hard to fly in and out of Des Moines on a 737 or bigger.

    It is the classic catch 22, they want more people to fly out of Des Moines and they keep giving us less service!



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    C'mon guys, suck it up!!! I'm 6"2, my company never springs for first class, and I can't afford it for personal trips. Usually when I fly on NW, I have to take the CRJ from DFW to MSP, and then hop on the infamous NW Airlink Saab turbojet to get to my final destination. No one every promised (me at least) a life of luxury or full leg-room flights. It's not like we're flying to Austrailia on the CRJ...
    My company doesn't either. I flew coach for a long time before I got enough FF elite points to get upgraded for free.

    What sucks is they won't upgrade you on the overseas flights, I have seriously considered paying for it though.



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    The CRJs are small but I like that you always have a window or aisle and never have to worry about being sandwiched between two fat people in a middle. Also, the CRJs are a big step up from the Saab turboprops. NW used to fly a plane called an ARJ (not sure who made it). It was a wide body regional jet with the wing mounted high on the plane and 4 engines. That was a nice ride.

    The MD-80\DC-9 has always scared the heck out of me. I really didn't like the engines mounted on the body of the plane instead of the wings. The whole plane would vibrate\resonate at certain RPM.

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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    On the bright side flying in the regional jets makes me feel like a giant...tilting my head walking down the aisle and all. Its like back in the day when I had one the basketball hoop that you could adjust up and down and we'd put it all the way down to have sweet dunk contests.

    Oh, and edit for the realization that this is post 100...only took a year.


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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    the turbo-props that used to be flown out of the QC Airport...
    My first flight ever was in one of those turbo-props from QC to O'Hare on way to Washington DC for my high school Close Up trip...that plane scared the crap out of me.



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    Re: AA is getting rid of the MD-80!

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboycurtis View Post
    Just put me in the seat of a Piper Arrow and I can get anywhere. It might take awhile and I cant carry much but I will get there and wont have to check my baggage, worry about security, or wait at the ticket counter.
    I'm with you brutha....

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