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    Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Larry's drinking problem and ISU firing him was about the worst thing that could have happened to this program. While the program was down during his final years, he would have coached Stinson/Blalock/Clark/Homan instead of Wayne Morgan. I can't imagine how good those teams would have been under LE.

    LE wanted to be at Iowa State...he loved it here. Could he have left for a bigger job? Sure, but that's about on the same level as worrying about Paul Rhoads leaving.

    Instead he made some horrible choices and was fired. We were turned down by everyone and their dog. Hiring Morgan was a good transition to keep our recruiting class in tact but clearly, from a coaching perspective, he wasn't the long term answer. Then in 2006, we make another change. We all know how well that has worked out so far.

    I think that LE would still be our coach if he wasn't an idiot or if we let him address his problem and return to the sidelines. In nearly 7 years since his departure, we still aren't the same.



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    There is no passion. He took all of that with him, apparently.



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Thank you for mentioning Paul Rhoads in your post. It makes me feel good about one aspect of ISU athletics.



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Things got real bad when a coach was fired after three seasons. He had the highest winning % of any coach in ISU history for their first three seasons. He had made a second round in the NCAA tourney and the semi-finals of the NIT. The last 3.5 seasons have been awful...



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    Larry's drinking problem and ISU firing him was about the worst thing that could have happened to this program. While the program was down during his final years, he would have coached Stinson/Blalock/Clark/Homan instead of Wayne Morgan. I can't imagine how good those teams would have been under LE.

    LE wanted to be at Iowa State...he loved it here. Could he have left for a bigger job? Sure, but that's about on the same level as worrying about Paul Rhoads leaving.

    Instead he made some horrible choices and was fired. We were turned down by everyone and their dog. Hiring Morgan was a good transition to keep our recruiting class in tact but clearly, from a coaching perspective, he wasn't the long term answer. Then in 2006, we make another change. We all know how well that has worked out so far.

    I think that LE would still be our coach if he wasn't an idiot or if we let him address his problem and return to the sidelines. In nearly 7 years since his departure, we still aren't the same.
    Not allowing this to happen was one of the biggest mistakes in ISU history. Screw you, Bruce Van De Velde.


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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Respectfully disagree. You've forgotten about just how bad his last few seasons were. He could not recruit at all and caught lightning in a bottle during the 2 Big 12 championship years.


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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    There is no passion. He took all of that with him, apparently.

    I think the whole ordeal took it out of him personally. Doesnt seem like he has much passion where hes at now. I guess the whole thing gave him a wake up for the trouble he caused, but he lost alot along the way. I would take him back in a heartbeat if he could prove the fire is still in there.



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    Respectfully disagree. You've forgotten about just how bad his last few seasons were. He could not recruit at all and caught lightning in a bottle during the 2 Big 12 championship years.

    His offcourt issues got into his job. If this would have been fixed, Im sure he would have turned it around.



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    Respectfully disagree. You've forgotten about just how bad his last few seasons were. He could not recruit at all and caught lightning in a bottle during the 2 Big 12 championship years.
    Winning percentage-wise, he is the winningest coach in Iowa State history. If that's "lightning in a bottle", I will take that any day of the week.

    Sure he had a couple bad season, but he had Morgan's players coming in...things would have turned around.



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by bos View Post
    I think the whole ordeal took it out of him personally. Doesnt seem like he has much passion where hes at now. I guess the whole thing gave him a wake up for the trouble he caused, but he lost alot along the way. I would take him back in a heartbeat if he could prove the fire is still in there.
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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    The Falcons got dumped on by Vick and quickly responded. Gillespie left a huge hole at A&M and they're finding a way to win still. I could go on.

    These are different kinds of adversity but regardless, display severe adverse situations. The fact is, smart teams with good leadership find a way to bounce back. LE and the firing definitely hurt - but there is no telling what would have happened had he stayed. We also forget his last season wasn't all that great.

    I refuse to put much, if any, blame of our current situation on what took place back then. We've had our chances right there in front of us and have repeatedly not capitalized on them. That's not on LE, that's on them.



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    It's hard to really say how it would have been. I would like to say it would be better then it is now.



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    LE had to go...dude has some serious issues.



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by bos View Post
    I would take him back in a heartbeat if he could prove the fire is still in there.
    I would not oppose it, that's for sure.



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    Re: Eustachy's departure set this program back by 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by CB21 View Post
    It's hard to really say how it would have been. I would like to say it would be better then it is now.
    Could it really be much worse?



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