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    Clifford Morgan

    I ran into Clifford and his mom this morning at the Des Moines airport as they were heading back to Florida.

    All I can say is I am glad this guy verballed to us. Both he and his mom where very nice and said they enjoyed their visit to ISU and thought the basketball atomosphere was great. This guy has a good frame and I could see him packing on some weight and playing OLB. Scout has him listed at 6'2" 189 lbs. I would say more like 6'3"/4" range and close to 200 lbs. Whether he stays at safety or moves to linebacker I think this kid is going to be good.


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    Clifford Morgan I believe. Good story though. I heard he was a really under the radar type guy and we got on him really early which is usually a sign that we wanted him a lot. Hope he pans out!


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    Thanks I was watching TV and heard the name Moore as I was typing lol, fixed it.



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    Re: Clifford Morgan

    Quote Originally Posted by isufbcurt View Post
    I ran into Clifford and his mom this morning at the Des Moines airport as they were heading back to Florida.

    All I can say is I am glad this guy verballed to us. Both he and his mom where very nice and said they enjoyed their visit to ISU and thought the basketball atomosphere was great. This guy has a good frame and I could see him packing on some weight and playing OLB. Scout has him listed at 6'2" 189 lbs. I would say more like 6'3"/4" range and close to 200 lbs. Whether he stays at safety or moves to linebacker I think this kid is going to be good.
    I saw a roster of the Offense/Defense all-star game, where he played WR, and it listed him at 6-4, so you could be right that he is a little bigger than what it shows on the commitment list.



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    Re: Clifford Morgan

    I remember a post a while back talking about Wally's desire to recruit players for different positions. Meaning recruiting larger linebackers to move to DE and safeties to move to LB. Because if Mr. Morgan was 6'-3" 210 lbs and still ran that 4.6 he would be a highly sought after linebacker. Instead, he was a lightly recruited guy for the secondary. I think this tactic could introduce Iowa State with a methodology to recruiting that actually helps us against the Nebraskas, texas, Oklahomas....we cant out-recruit these schools. But we can recruit guys that are tweeners while the top programs take the cream of the crop. Then a position change or two and suddenly we have what you truly need to be an effective defense - PLAYMAKERS at each level and an increase to overall team athleticism.

    Speed rushers off the edge, Speed at the outside linebackers, and speed in the secondary.

    Any way you look at it, i think Coach Rhoads and his staff see the need to increase our overall team speed on defense and we cant just go out and sign the playmakers at the three levels, so you recruit the guys that can maintain speed and put on some additional size for their frame to fill a team void.

    Brilliant recruiting if you ask me, if in fact this is what their doing.....



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    Re: Clifford Morgan

    Morgan is a guy the staff offered very early. Gotta like that.



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    Re: Clifford Morgan

    Looks like a OLB to me. I am excited about the future under Wally.



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    I love tall guys on defense. Some will shy away from a guy that is 6'4 or so becaue they can lose leverage battle at times, but I love height. If this kid can be 6'3 and 240, he could be an animal out there either at LB or SS. I see a lot of these "under the radar" athletes. Thats what we need right now. We simply are not going to get the guys that are sure things at this point. We need to take raw athleticism and coach it up.


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    Re: Clifford Morgan

    Quote Originally Posted by Bipolarcy View Post
    I saw a roster of the Offense/Defense all-star game, where he played WR, and it listed him at 6-4, so you could be right that he is a little bigger than what it shows on the commitment list.

    What does Scout do? Look at a picture of him running and try to guessimate his height. Or is the figure a year old and he grew a couple?


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    Did you think he has the frame to grow into a DE?



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    Re: Clifford Morgan

    Quote Originally Posted by yaman3 View Post
    We need to take raw athleticism and coach it up.
    YAMAN - YOU NAILED IT!!!!



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    Re: Clifford Morgan

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    Did you think he has the frame to grow into a DE?
    I didn't see him like the OP did but I would say possibly. If that is what they want out of him that has to be the intention from the get-go though. I really think the intention is to make him into a linebacker, but if we do have DE in mind he needs to be on the correct strength and conditioning prgrams right away because he is a little small right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yaman3 View Post
    I didn't see him like the OP did but I would say possibly. If that is what they want out of him that has to be the intention from the get-go though. I really think the intention is to make him into a linebacker, but if we do have DE in mind he needs to be on the correct strength and conditioning prgrams right away because he is a little small right now.
    i think your closer with the WLB would be my guess if in fact he's 6-3 6-4 and 189-200, his frame could easily put on 20-25 pounds without major reduction in speed. Based on his photos, guys already cut, if he stayed at safety and had range to cover and blast some people i wouldnt mind that either...

    I just want 4 guys on our defense that has the impact of David Sims and this defense will be completely different. we need at least 1-2 impact defensive lineman....thats what this defense is lacking right now is that impact guy on the dline....Lets all hope and pray that my man Rony Nelson brings it - if he does, those qb's wont be back there reading up on their Basketweaving Cliff Notes while waiting for their WR to get open before he throws it.....funny how much better a defense gets when you get early pressure off the edge......



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    Re: Clifford Morgan

    Quote Originally Posted by KMAC_ATTACK View Post
    i think your closer with the WLB would be my guess if in fact he's 6-3 6-4 and 189-200, his frame could easily put on 20-25 pounds without major reduction in speed. Based on his photos, guys already cut, if he stayed at safety and had range to cover and blast some people i wouldnt mind that either...

    I just want 4 guys on our defense that has the impact of David Sims and this defense will be completely different. we need at least 1-2 impact defensive lineman....thats what this defense is lacking right now is that impact guy on the dline....Lets all hope and pray that my man Rony Nelson brings it - if he does, those qb's wont be back there reading up on their Basketweaving Cliff Notes while waiting for their WR to get open before he throws it.....funny how much better a defense gets when you get early pressure off the edge......
    IMO- Pressure up the middle is more important than the edge when facing spread offenses. The spread can attack the pressure from the edge not so much from the middle. Most defenses that have been able to stop the spread have done so with creating havoc in the middle.

    Of course, I would take both



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    Re: Clifford Morgan

    So how many of these incoming freshman will make an immediate impact from day 1?


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