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    Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

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    Meyer admitted last season that the ISU coaching staff gave him a limited amount of the field to work with, breaking down the field into thirds and clearing him to throw just to certain areas. "He's getting a chance to make more throws all over the field," receiver Todd Blythe said. "They're not going to cut the field in half or in thirds for him; they're going to say make the play where you can make the play.

    "That's something he definitely has the ability to do. He's been able to do that since he got here. They're going to give him the offense and turn him loose. He's a hell of an athlete so he'll be able to do that."
    I'm not very football smart in the fine details. I'm looking for someone to tell me what would be GOOD reasons to do this. I would appreciate it if nobody would post negative replies or jabs at previous coaches. Just tell me--if you were a coach--what situation would lead you to do this.


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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    Well its like what som1 said b4, the oline was not that great, and maybe the coaches told meyer that you only have a certain amount of time, which leaves you to certain portions of the field


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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    Our coaches were fearful of turning the ball over to a fault. To avoid turning the ball over, they avoided throwing the ball to the middle of the field.



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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    A conservative nature perhaps. It is easier to read a third of the field than the whole thing. This could reduce interceptions.



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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    I thought that you had said that you didn't want anyone to post negative reptiles. I was befuddled as to what a negative reptile could possibly be....

    Anywho, I think it would be done to help eliminate interceptions and dropped balls (fumbles) in the middle of the field.


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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    It fits with the "no turnover" mentality. Sometimes you have to take some risks and we I think were overbalanced to not make mistakes. For example, while on one hand I appreciated to few fumbles we have had by RB's, I wonder how many quality backs never had a chance b/c of early career fumbles.

    Limiting the field for a QB reduces likelhood of mistakes and as long as you vary the "hot" zone is not as predictable as some would imply. It does however drive you nuts as a fan sitting up in stands with a birds eye view of the whole field of play and you see what is being passed up.



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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    Part of it had to be the coaching staff's belief of limiting turnovers. Limiting the QB to fewer options simplifies the reads they need to make and reduces the chances for making a bad read and thowing into coverage. That's all fine and dandy if your D can get off the field in 3 downs. If not, you get what we saw last year.

    Another factor may be that the QB simply isn't good enough to make the reads. From the outside looking in, I don't think this is the case with Meyer.

    I understand doing something like this with a freshman QB, or a backup who has limited game experience, but after 2 or 3 years in a system, you'd think the staff would loosen the reigns a bit.



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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    Because if we would have went for more yards in the air that would have left not as many times we could run Stevie up the middle. You know we loved watching Stevie run up the middle.



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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    Because if we would have went for more yards in the air that would have left not as many times we could run Stevie up the middle. You know we loved watching Stevie run up the middle.
    Oh wow, you are right. This is the answer! We just needed to see if Stevie could actually break something in the middle 20-25 times a game, no matter what down it was.

    I agree with everyone else in the conservative nature of this tactic. I just don't know why it would have been a problem with a 3rd year starter in Meyer.



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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    I think it was done because some members of the staff/team were prejudice against certain sides of the field.



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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    Because if we would have went for more yards in the air that would have left not as many times we could run Stevie up the middle. You know we loved watching Stevie run up the middle.
    This just made me laugh. "Oooh, it's third and eternity. What are we going to do?" ::Stevie rush up the middle for 2 yards:: Oh yea, I forgot, that's the play we know how to run unsuccessfully.


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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone62 View Post
    This just made me laugh. "Oooh, it's third and eternity. What are we going to do?" ::Stevie rush up the middle for 2 yards:: Oh yea, I forgot, that's the play we know how to run unsuccessfully.
    Personally, I miss the days of "Flynn-on-da-keeper for 1 yard".

    It always excited my wife for some reason. Perhaps because when the booth announcer called the play, it was in a tone that appealed to 3rd graders - something she relates to well.

    Yet, her increased excitement didn't always suck.

    Errr....well...

    *ahem*

    Nevermind....



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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    Who ever left me a negative response for my joke is an idiot. Plain and simple. Now get over yourself and laugh.



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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    Who ever left me a negative response for my joke is an idiot. Plain and simple. Now get over yourself and laugh.

    Well, don't be makin fun of Mac. It isn't his faul..........nevermind


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    Re: Any good reasons for "pulling Meyer's punches"?

    Bottomline,
    This was McCarney's offense. Seneca chose to do his own thing, but otherwise nothing changed over the years, just every other team figured it out. It's easy to blame Barney Cotton, but he only ran what Mac told him to run. He was the scapegoat. Why did we run that offense? Who knows, why does any coach run their offense. It was Mac's and he stuck with it. In my view, it was crazy. When Meyer ran for his life, he wasn't allowed to throw to open people if they weren't in the right zone. I do wonder why Meyer didn't simply ignore things and throw the pass anyway.



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