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    Mac vs PC

    always had PC's, my wife has been begging for a Mac for some time, she "accidently" broke the LCD on her PC Laptop so I gave in and just ordered a refurbished Macbook from apple.com. The Mac Mini also seems pretty neat for a home PC and am watching some on ebay now- are Mac's worth the extra money? Anyone have experience with the extended Apple Care warranty?

    It seems the cable vs satellite debate gets a lot of input here on CF so I thought I would see what people think about Macs vs PC's, next maybe we can try Dogs vs Cats



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    Re: Mac vs PC

    IMO, no, they are not worth the extra money.

    But the mac people will come out of the woodwork and defend them to death.

    The minis are alright, but pretty underpowered, and not easily upgradeable.

    There are plenty of low priced PC alternatives with better performance than the minis.


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    Re: Mac vs PC

    Macs are okay...but they're over hyped...in my opinion. Apple people also think they invented everything like the "Time Machine" concept and the accelerometer on hard drives. Hliarious.

    Seriously though, I've not had a problem with windows since about 1999. If you know what you're doing, you aren't going to be ****ed with on windows no matter what anyone says.

    The OS X Kernel also restricts a lot of things, which is why "not a lot can go wrong" because technically speaking you can't do as much to begin with but if you look at it from a low level....ha...leave it at that



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    Re: Mac vs PC

    My recommendation: get a 500-800 pc laptop. The macs arent worth the extra money, and when the laptop wears down, you can go buy another laptop in the same range, and still have spent less than you wouldve on one macbook. (and that second one will be much, much better than any macbook you can get today, just due to tech progressing) Id apply that not just to macs, but to those overpriced sony and 'fashion' models from HP\Dell.



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    Re: Mac vs PC

    I have a Mac, and I love it. Very easy to use.


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    Re: Mac vs PC

    If you're doing a lot with graphics I've heard Mac is the way to go. For basic use you want a PC as my wife has a Mac Powerbook and I have a Thinkpad at home. Prefer using the Thinkpad.



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    The thing is, any more, a Mac IS a PC. It is a PC running Mac OS. That also gets you a lot of flexibility. A PC can't run Mac OS (not legally at least, and not without going through a LOT of work obtaining and hacking a customized Mac OS for your PC hardware). But you can very easily take a Mac and put Windows on it also. ("Boot Camp") So, if you don't mind spending the extra money, and if you or your wife might like being able to run both Windows and Mac OS, get the Mac.



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    Re: Mac vs PC

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone42 View Post
    The thing is, any more, a Mac IS a PC. It is a PC running Mac OS.
    You can say that about any computer.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone42 View Post
    A PC can't run Mac OS (not legally at least, and not without going through a LOT of work obtaining and hacking a customized Mac OS for your PC hardware).
    Wrong. There's legal intel versions of Mac OSX. Apple - Intel

    It's all dependent on the CPU and the assembler language used on it. Intel uses x86 assembler and most OS's can run on that and Apple was different for the longest time and used PowerPC which was based on a Motorolla and IBM chipset (PowerPC). Most of the OS's apple came out were made strictly for PowerPC assembler and it would not work on Intel because they aren't the same...not to mention PowerPC was RISC architecture and x86 is CISC.

    Snow leopard though is completely intel based though now. so yeah..guess you haven't caught up.



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    Re: Mac vs PC

    Quote Originally Posted by marothisu View Post
    You can say that about any computer.




    Wrong. There's legal intel versions of Mac OSX. Apple - Intel

    It's all dependent on the CPU and the assembler language used on it. Intel uses x86 assembler and most OS's can run on that and Apple was different for the longest time and used PowerPC which was based on a Motorolla and IBM chipset (PowerPC). Most of the OS's apple came out were made strictly for PowerPC assembler and it would not work on Intel because they aren't the same...not to mention PowerPC was RISC architecture and x86 is CISC.

    Snow leopard though is completely intel based though now. so yeah..guess you haven't caught up.
    just because osx works for intel processors, does not mean theyre legal to install on non-apple computers. iirc, its against the license to install on non-apple machines.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSx86#L...ple_objections

    if apple would sell standalone versions of its OS and allow easy, non-hacked installations of OSX, i might look at dual-booting. But if they did that, people would find they could have a mac system for 600 bucks instead of the ridiculous prices apple charges.


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    Re: Mac vs PC

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone42 View Post
    The thing is, any more, a Mac IS a overpriced PC. It is a PC running Mac OS.



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    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    just because osx works for intel processors, does not mean theyre legal to install on non-apple computers. iirc, its against the license to install on non-apple machines.
    I was going off the fact he said hacking your computer....the whole reason it didn't work on x86 architecture before is because the Mac OS's were made to run off of the PowerPC assembler instruction set and NOT the x86 (Intel) assembler instruction set.

    Now because there are OS X that can run on x86 architecture, it's easy as **** to put it on your PC. Before, going with PowerPC over Intel say back in the early 90s was an easy way to ensure a proprietary system where one would have to buy the Apple computer too if they wanted to OS. Now it's not the case since it runs off x86 architecture.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CyTom View Post
    If you're doing a lot with graphics I've heard Mac is the way to go. For basic use you want a PC as my wife has a Mac Powerbook and I have a Thinkpad at home. Prefer using the Thinkpad.
    It depends on what you are using for your graphics work.

    If you're using Adobe tools, the PC versions are every bit as capable as the Mac ones.

    It USED to be the case that publishing stuff was way easier on Mac than PC. It's really not the case anymore, though. At this point it's really a matter of personal preference.


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    Re: Mac vs PC

    Yep, and that's their problem for porting it to x86...if they are 100% worried about having their OS only on their systems, they should have rethought it.

    The only major hacking would be for drivers, and tons of people are already working on that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by marothisu View Post
    I was going off the fact he said hacking your computer....the whole reason it didn't work on x86 architecture before is because the Mac OS's were made to run off of the PowerPC assembler instruction set and NOT the x86 (Intel) assembler instruction set.

    Now because there are OS X that can run on x86 architecture, it's easy as **** to put it on your PC. Before, going with PowerPC over Intel say back in the early 90s was an easy way to ensure a proprietary system where one would have to buy the Apple computer too if they wanted to OS. Now it's not the case since it runs off x86 architecture.
    not really that easy. its not like you just pop in the disc straight from apple. the installation has to be hacked, and you have to find drivers that'll work with your hardware.



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