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    just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Here's how the 10 teams we've beaten this year are ranked in the Sagarin ratings.

    101. Houston
    126. Saint Louis
    127. Bradley
    193. Iowa
    244. Idaho State
    257. Drake
    289. Tennessee State
    331. Chicago State
    340. Mississippi Valley State
    344. North Dakota

    There are only 347 ranked teams, so you can see we really do schedule the worst teams in America.
    Our strength of schedule is 290th. And unbelievably that does include the Duke game.
    North Dakota State is ranked 274th, so we if we can beat them it really will be one of the better wins of the Greg Mcdermott era.



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Quote Originally Posted by fcmc View Post
    North Dakota State is ranked 274th, so we if we can beat them it really will be one of the better wins of the Greg Mcdermott era.


    It's always good to go with the old adage: It's better to be quiet and have people think you are stupid than open your mouth and remove all doubt.



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Unfortunately ISU's schedule has suffered from a couple of teams being really down. Iowa and Bradley typically are pretty good teams and St Louis has been much stronger in the past than they are right now. With the contacts being done so far ahead of time, what do you do? Our SOS will improve during the first part of the Big 12.



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    Unfortunately ISU's schedule has suffered from a couple of teams being really down. Iowa and Bradley typically are pretty good teams and St Louis has been much stronger in the past than they are right now. With the contacts being done so far ahead of time, what do you do? Our SOS will improve during the first part of the Big 12.
    NDSU was really good last year. Chicago St and Drake have been good recently.



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Don't talk about how good the teams we have lost to are. That would be positive.


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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Yeah ...well all that list proves is that Greg ***** McDermott cant beat any good teams....Ever hear of Creighton???

    my prediction...by feb 1st the clone fan base will be screaming for a new coach and jp had better listen or there will be an emptier hilton coliseum...


    for the record....I went to quite a few games prior to Johnny Orr and I can tell you back then if they had 3500 fans in the bldg it was a good crowd!!!!!



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    That list shows why the UNI and NW losses were so big. If we could have just gotten one of those we'd have a decent out of conference victory on our resume. You need those good wins to make the tournament. As it is we don't have much margin for error in the Big 12, and it is tough this season.

    Will be interesting to see how all of the Big 12 games today play out.



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    oh love it when good ol' fcmc pessimistic posts show up when we're struggling.



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Yes, I'm just so excited that we lose to every good team we play.



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Quote Originally Posted by yaman3 View Post
    Don't talk about how good the teams we have lost to are. That would be positive.
    How is losing to a good team a positive?


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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post


    It's always good to go with the old adage: It's better to be quiet and have people think you are stupid than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
    Thanks for proving that Bawbie!!!



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    While I think this post is about 50-75% useless, it still remains that GMac hasn't beaten many good teams. I made a post about it before.

    Most of the non-con teams we've played in his era were not that great which is why we usually start out with 9 or 10 wins, then get smoked in the Big 12 (He's 14-37 in the big 12 and 4 of those wins have been over Nebraska, 3 over Colorado....I think he beat Oklahoma State once, Baylor once, and maybe Oklahoma once...in three seasons. That's not saying a lot).

    I strongly believe we're better this year than any of the three years, at least...we have the most potential I should say.

    But, it's true, take a look at who we've played under GMac and then realize THAT is the reason he is 54-54 here because we've gotten smoked in the Big 12 every year (his first year wasn't AS bad ...and we beat Purdue).



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Sagarin Rankings of teams that have been us:

    3. Duke
    25. Northern Iowa
    48. California
    80. Northwestern

    Our ranking:
    82. Iowa State

    Big 12 Sagarin Rankings:
    1. Kansas
    2. Texas
    7. Kansas State
    26. Baylor
    31. Mizzou
    32. A&M
    53. OK State
    56. Tech
    82. Iowa State
    84. Nebraska
    100. Oklahoma
    143. Colorado



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Quote Originally Posted by price26 View Post
    Sagarin Rankings of teams that have been us:

    3. Duke
    25. Northern Iowa
    48. California
    80. Northwestern

    Our ranking:
    82. Iowa State

    Big 12 Sagarin Rankings:
    1. Kansas
    2. Texas
    7. Kansas State
    26. Baylor
    31. Mizzou
    32. A&M
    53. OK State
    56. Tech
    82. Iowa State
    84. Nebraska
    100. Oklahoma
    143. Colorado
    Yep. We've lost to every team ranked higher than us and we've beaten every team ranked lower.

    And that won't get us into the tourney.



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    Re: just how bad the teams we've beaten are

    Was anyone else suprised we are ranked 82nd? That actually was better than I thought. I expected us to be somewhere in the 100-130 range. Just shows how little things can make a huge difference. If we just made 1-2 more plays at the end of the UNI game we are probably sitting around 60 which starts to get you in the bubble conversation. Oh well.



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