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    Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    These are current GSR's (graduation success rate) for football for all NCAA bowl teams. Unfortunately the Big XII does not look so good academically, especially for the two marquee programs. Hard to believe that Nebraska, where the "N" stands for knowledge, is the conference's best football program for academics. Actually Baylor is probably the best for GSR, but they will never make this list since they'll never go to a bowl game:

    Navy 93%
    Northwestern 92
    Boston College 91

    Stanford 89
    Air Force 87
    Southern Miss 84
    Penn State 85
    Connecticut 82
    Rutgers 81
    North Carolina 80

    SMU 79
    Ohio 76
    Cincinnati 75
    Miami 75
    Iowa 74
    Bowling Green 73
    Florida State 73
    East Carolina 72
    Marshall 72
    Nebraska 72
    Virginia Tech 71

    Florida 69
    Idaho 69
    Mississippi 69
    Texas Tech 69
    Pittsburgh 68
    Alabama 67
    Clemson 67
    TCU 65
    Wisconsin 65
    California 64
    Iowa State 64
    Missouri 64
    Ohio State 62
    BYU 61
    Oklahoma State 61
    West Virginia 61
    LSU 60
    South Carolina 60

    Auburn 59
    Boise State 58
    USC 58
    Georgia 57
    Nevada 57
    Oregon State 57
    Utah 57
    Central Florida 56
    Michigan State 56
    Middle Tennessee State 56
    Kentucky 55
    Texas A&M 55
    Minnesota 54
    Wyoming 54
    Houston 53
    Arkansas 52
    Tennessee 52
    Temple 50

    Georgia Tech 49
    Oregon 49
    Texas 49
    Fresno State 46
    Oklahoma 45
    Arizona 41


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    Jamie Pollard, 2005-. 4 years. 1 bowl game, 0 NCAA's, 0 NIT's. Postseason participation: 13%. The next big step.

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    Re: Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    Do athletes that leave for the NFL early count against a school? Or are those students removed from the final tally? Just curious...



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    Re: Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    CPR said at the pep rally tonight that ISU has the #1 graduation rate amongst the Big 12 FB teams...

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    Re: Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    CPR said at the pep rally tonight that ISU has the #1 graduation rate amongst the Big 12 FB teams...
    That's a strange thing to say when it clearly isn't true....unless he is looking at a specific time frame of his own choosing instead of the NCAA's official time window. Interestingly enough, in his statement released today, Mike Leach claimed that Texas Technical has the #1 graduation rate amonst the Big 12 FB teams.

    Here's a comparison of all Bowl teams:

    http://www.tidesport.org/Grad%20Rate..._GSR_Study.pdf

    Here's the NCAA APR (academic progress rate) data as of spring 2009:

    2009 NCAA Division I Academic Progress Rate (APR) Reports by School - NCAA.org

    Our numbers are not as good as Nebraska's or Texas Technical's, but they're a lot better than Texas or Oklahoma.


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    Re: Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    Quote Originally Posted by MontyBurns View Post
    These are current GSR's (graduation success rate) for football for all NCAA bowl teams. Unfortunately the Big XII does not look so good academically, especially for the two marquee programs. Hard to believe that Nebraska, where the "N" stands for knowledge, is the conference's best football program for academics. Actually Baylor is probably the best for GSR, but they will never make this list since they'll never go to a bowl game:

    All this means is that Nebraska is the easiest place to get a degree if you're a football player.


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    Re: Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    Does the GSR take into account transfers? Like if a student transfers is that a negative for ISU?



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    Re: Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    I suppose a few coaches could pick whatever time frame they want and say they are the best-
    EX: If every senior ISU player has graduated or is on track to graduate this year, then no school can have a higher rate.

    Leach may be looking at the last 10 years that he's been the coach.


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    Re: Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    Quote Originally Posted by melt View Post
    Does the GSR take into account transfers? Like if a student transfers is that a negative for ISU?
    Transfers hurt, leaving early for NFL hurts - You count all student atheletes that enroll as freshman and if they graduate in a 6 year window from when they start.

    I think the ISU football team at 64% is still higher than the overall ISU average for all students. I think this 64% will grow higher as we have more years of CPR leading our program.

    Most of the women's sports teams are like in the 90% range, unfortunately MBB is not very good.



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    Re: Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    I remembered reading an article awhile back about best ever athlete graduation rates and I found the article. It says the athlete graduation rate is 79%, but it also says the all-student graduation rate is 67%.
    Which is incorrect, or is the GSR different from the graduation rate?
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    Re: Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    Quote Originally Posted by weR138 View Post
    All this means is that Nebraska is the easiest place to get a degree if you're a football player.
    I'm not sure it qualifies as an institute of higher learning.



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    Re: Graduation Rates for all Bowl Teams

    Quote Originally Posted by JRE1975 View Post
    Transfers hurt, leaving early for NFL hurts - You count all student atheletes that enroll as freshman and if they graduate in a 6 year window from when they start.

    I think the ISU football team at 64% is still higher than the overall ISU average for all students. I think this 64% will grow higher as we have more years of CPR leading our program.

    Most of the women's sports teams are like in the 90% range, unfortunately MBB is not very good.
    I don't think transfers count against you if they leave in good academic standing and if they go on to graduate elsewhere.

    As I recall, the MBB graduation rate was at 6% at one point, by the NCAA's 6-year average...that was with mostly Floyd's and some of Eustachy's recruits. Neither of those coaches gave a damn about academics and Floyd's revolving door of running players off and recruiting over players dooms any team he coaches. Probably one of the reasons he's always long gone by the six year mark when the NCAA shows up to remove scholarships. The MBB numbers have been steadily improving under Morgan & McDermott.


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