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    Football top 25 "academic bowl" standings

    Interesting comparison of the current top 25 football schools' academic performance. It chiefly reflects (1) how well the football team graduates players relative to that school's regular students, and (2) the disparate rates between whites and African-Americans on the team.
    Penn State, Stanford, and Cincinnati lead the list.
    Then we have Texas, in last place...

    Third Annual Academic Bowl Championship Series Rankings | NewAmerica.net



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    Re: Football top 25 "academic bowl" standings

    Interesting to see Cincinnatti so high. The impression seems to be that they aren't much for academics, but maybe that stems from their basketball program under Huggins.



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    Re: Football top 25 "academic bowl" standings

    I don't put much stock in these things. I could care less if Texas has poor graduation, their players aren't finishing school so they can train for the NFL and thats the smart thing for them to do. They can always go back to school and graduate after they are done in the NFL.

    Now the poll I would like to see is a ranking of teams by failing grades, not incompletes, that would tell me the schools that don't care about academics.



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    Re: Football top 25 "academic bowl" standings

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    Interesting to see Cincinnatti so high. The impression seems to be that they aren't much for academics, but maybe that stems from their basketball program under Huggins.
    I agree, Cincy stands out; remember that this basically measures how the football team's academic/graduation performance compares to the rest of that school's student body. Cincy's regular students may not be that impressive regarding graduation, I don't know.
    Stanford's football team really stands out, as they are going against a regular student body with a 79% graduation rate within four years. The football team, though, has a 93% grad rate. At Stanford. That's incredible.
    Also incredible is Texas. It appears that the football team may as well be in another world compared to the rest of the university.



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    Re: Football top 25 "academic bowl" standings

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    I agree, Cincy stands out; remember that this basically measures how the football team's academic/graduation performance compares to the rest of that school's student body. Cincy's regular students may not be that impressive regarding graduation, I don't know.
    Stanford's football team really stands out, as they are going against a regular student body with a 79% graduation rate within four years. The football team, though, has a 93% grad rate. At Stanford. That's incredible.
    Also incredible is Texas. It appears that the football team may as well be in another world compared to the rest of the university.
    So does this rating measure only compared to graduating in 4 years? If so, does redshirting and graduating in 5 years reflect negatively?



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    Re: Football top 25 "academic bowl" standings

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    So does this rating measure only compared to graduating in 4 years? If so, does redshirting and graduating in 5 years reflect negatively?
    No, it gives you six years. I used the Stanford example of four years to show that their football team is being measured against an extremely motivated regular student body.
    The Federal Graduation Rate does not count (1) a student athlete who transfers and then graduates at another four-year school, (2) a junior college graduate who transfers to a four-year school and graduates, and (3) a student-athlete who returns to school and graduates after six years.
    The FGR is used in this comparison because there is no other way to compare schools' sports teams against the regular student body.



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    Re: Football top 25 "academic bowl" standings

    Where would ISU place in that list?


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    Jamie Pollard, 2005-. 4 years. 1 bowl game, 0 NCAA's, 0 NIT's. Postseason participation: 13%. The next big step.

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