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    And the winner is......

    I shared this site earlier this week and thought I would update.

    According to stiffarmtrophy.com (site has guessed the last 7 Heismans) they are projecting Mark Ingram to win.

    I really hope that NS wins since the award is suppose to go to the "most outstanding player" not the most valuable player.

    I have hated how the pundits have said that "NS should win the trophy but he wont so I voted for MI or TG or whoever."-- Well if you would have voted for NS maybe he would win..........

    StiffArmTrophy.com: Our final projection: Mark Ingram, in a close one.



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    Re: And the winner is......

    The Heisman has to be the most overrated award in all of sports.
    Not only is the award absurd, the way the figure it out is as well.
    When the guy with the most first place votes doesn't finish in first place, perhaps you should re-examine the system.

    Especially when that guys is the most dominant player at his position in decades, and the likely winner is a mediocre running back on a really good team.


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    Re: And the winner is......

    Quote Originally Posted by jumbopackage View Post
    Especially when that guys is the most dominant player at his position in decades, and the likely winner is a mediocre running back on a really good team.
    Nailed it this year. Mediocre quarterback on a really good team would sum it up most years.



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    Re: And the winner is......

    Gerhart avg rushing vs ranked teams 200 yds. Suh at times single handedly kept nebraska in games. Those should be the top 2 based on what they did vs the best this year. Remember no Alabama player has ever won the Heisman. There are 3 regions that don't have a canidate in this year be interesting seeing the break down. I guess some of the southern published ballots have left Ingram off completely.



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    Re: And the winner is......

    Quote Originally Posted by jumbopackage View Post
    The Heisman has to be the most overrated award in all of sports.
    Not only is the award absurd, the way the figure it out is as well.
    When the guy with the most first place votes doesn't finish in first place, perhaps you should re-examine the system.

    Especially when that guys is the most dominant player at his position in decades, and the likely winner is a mediocre running back on a really good team.
    You think Ingram is mediocre? Have you not watched him play? Great balance and toughness. SEC is a great defensive conference and his OL is almost all new from last year.

    I too think Suh should win it though



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    Re: And the winner is......

    I wonder who Tebow voted for?



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    Re: And the winner is......

    The dumbest thing about the voting is that you vote for 1-3 place. Why the eff don't you just vote for who should be #1!? Nothing else matters.


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    Re: And the winner is......

    Gerhart would get my vote, followed by Suh. Teebow shouldn't be in the Top 5 candidates in my opinion as there were several other outstanding seasons by players that don't have the same level of talent around them that should be before TT.


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    Re: And the winner is......

    Last year Tebow had the most first place votes and didn't win it because he was left off a bunch of ballots. Im wondering if that may not come back into play this year.



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    Re: And the winner is......

    From BHGP:

    The following season stats for defensive lines, submitted for your examination.

    Line #1

    98 Tkl, 23.5 TFL, 9.5 Sk, 20 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk

    Line #2

    112 Tkl, 33 TFL, 14 Sk, 48 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 0 Blk

    Line #3

    116 Tkl, 25.5 TFL, 15.5 Sk, 10 QBH, 7 PBU, 0 Int, 2 FF, 0 Blk

    Line #4

    82 Tkl, 23 TFL, 12 Sk, 24 QBH, 10 PBU, 1 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk

    Line #1 = Alabama.

    Line #2 = Florida.

    Line #3 = Texas.

    Line #4 = Ndamukong Suh. By himself.



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    Re: And the winner is......

    Those are some amazing statistics right there....



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    Re: And the winner is......

    That's an incredible stat like Crosscyed



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    Re: And the winner is......

    Quote Originally Posted by CrossCyed View Post
    From BHGP:

    The following season stats for defensive lines, submitted for your examination.

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    98 Tkl, 23.5 TFL, 9.5 Sk, 20 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk

    Line #2

    112 Tkl, 33 TFL, 14 Sk, 48 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 0 Blk

    Line #3

    116 Tkl, 25.5 TFL, 15.5 Sk, 10 QBH, 7 PBU, 0 Int, 2 FF, 0 Blk

    Line #4

    82 Tkl, 23 TFL, 12 Sk, 24 QBH, 10 PBU, 1 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk

    Line #1 = Alabama.

    Line #2 = Florida.

    Line #3 = Texas.

    Line #4 = Ndamukong Suh. By himself.
    That is the statistical proof of all of the praise that has been heaped on him for the past week in the Heisman discussions.



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    Re: And the winner is......

    Was their a college award that he was a finalist for and didn't win this week?



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    Re: And the winner is......

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    You think Ingram is mediocre? Have you not watched him play? Great balance and toughness. SEC is a great defensive conference and his OL is almost all new from last year.

    I too think Suh should win it though
    Alabama kept right on ticking with or without him. He failed to get to 100 yards in 5 games this year, including a near loss at Auburn where he only rushed for 30 yards on 16 attempts, and a near loss at Tennessee where he was held to 99 yards on 18 attempts.

    He's a solid running back, but far and away the most "meh" of all the choices on the ballot, IMO. If Alabama wasn't undefeated (i.e. had lost to, say, Auburn or Tennessee), Ingram isn't even in the conversation, IMO.


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