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    Significant or not?

    I'm a big McDermott fan. I think he represents all that's right among college basketball coaches, and his staff is first class. I desperately want him to be successful. But I noticed two things during the UNI game that caused me concern. Things that are very uncharacteristic for a McDermott team:

    1. During warmups, UNI was running disciplined drills while our guys were having a dunk contest and laughing - no kidding.

    2. During the game there was one very telling play. Lucca had the ball knocked loose by a UNI defender and Lucca bent down for the ball while the UNI player dove to the floor and tipped it down court. Then Brackins bent over to pick the ball up while the UNI player dove to floor, grabbed the ball, and called timeout.

    Those two little things made me wonder if McDermott will be able to get it done this year. I hope I'm wrong because I think he's a first class coach and person.



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    Re: Significant or not?

    I dont think its criteria to fire someone but i agree it is a very telling sign of the team


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    Re: Significant or not?

    I had the unique chance to be in the locker room before a game this year and I heard Mac tell the guys to get on the floor for loose balls. He even said if they did a good job of that, they wouldn't have do some sort of drill the next day.



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    Re: Significant or not?

    I distinctly remember the loose ball with Lucca and Craig and thinking to myself, "Wow, what a half-***ed attempt by both of those guys." I'm with you that McDermott is a class act and that he is really trying, we'll see what happens tomorrow night.



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    Re: Significant or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by bufante View Post
    I had the unique chance to be in the locker room before a game this year and I heard Mac tell the guys to get on the floor for loose balls. He even said if they did a good job of that, they wouldn't have do some sort of drill the next day.
    If that's true - Gmac "bribing" his team to actually dive for loose balls, then I don't know what else to say...



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    I just think he needs to get tougher. The team needs to get tougher and that starts with the coach


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    Re: Significant or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    If that's true - Gmac "bribing" his team to actually dive for loose balls, then I don't know what else to say...
    You honestly don't think this happens with every other team in the country?



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    Re: Significant or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    If that's true - Gmac "bribing" his team to actually dive for loose balls, then I don't know what else to say...

    It is very true. I think is is common in coaching. I thought of it more as a reward rather then a bribe. My guess is they didn't have to do the drill (it was the Miss. Valley State game).

    I do remember the play the OP was talking about, it was pretty bad.



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    Re: Significant or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    If that's true - Gmac "bribing" his team to actually dive for loose balls, then I don't know what else to say...
    That's just how you coach. If you have trouble with something you work on it more. If you don't get on the ground for the ball we are doing fumble drills. I don't think that the drill actually helps itself but they do suck to do. Coaching is a bribe. If you work hard and play well you get time. If you don't then you don't get time. Sports in a way are one big bribe. I think your comment is another case of just trying to pile it on Mac.


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    Re: Significant or not?

    Half-***ed effort = bench time. Or, at least it should.


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    Re: Significant or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by yaman3 View Post
    I just think he needs to get tougher. The team needs to get tougher and that starts with the coach
    I agree - maybe like his coaching colleague Bill Fennelly: Just like one of our men's players, Alison Lacey was invited to play for her home country (Australia) in World University Games. BF told her he wanted her in Ames to help play with and mentor the incoming freshman. She stayed in Ames.



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    Re: Significant or not?

    Considering it seems that everyone is only in for a few minutes before they are rotated out, everyone should be going all-out all the time. Nobody has time to get tired.



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    Re: Significant or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    I agree - maybe like his coaching colleague Bill Fennelly: Just like one of our men's players, Alison Lacey was invited to play for her home country (Australia) in World University Games. BF told her he wanted her in Ames to help play with and mentor the incoming freshman. She stayed in Ames.
    Bill Fennelly is a bad *** in practice. He has made that team tough. Mac hasn't. I still support Mac because he has had success. I don't know what the problem is because he didn't forget how to coach the game. Basketball is different because talent can be so much more spread out because of the limited players needed. UNI made the same tourny that ISU had the opportunity to make and they were even successful in some tournament instances.


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    Re: Significant or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    If that's true - Gmac "bribing" his team to actually dive for loose balls, then I don't know what else to say...
    I don't know if I can count how many times I've done this as a coach...it's called setting game goals and setting rewards/consequences for achieving those goals or not. Not sure about your experiences but I don't know how you would think that's a bad thing to do?


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    Re: Significant or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by tigershoops31 View Post
    I don't know how many times I've done this as a coach...it's called setting game goals and setting rewards/consequences for achieving those goals or not. Not sure about your experiences but I don't know how you would think that's a bad thing to do?
    In my experiences with my high school coaches - football, basketball, and track - not one ever "bargained" with us as was described by the poster: that if we really hustle in a game, we will not have to do a certain drill in practice. Hustle and total effort was a given, and expected.
    Make no mistake, it's "bargaining" with your athletes, not "goal setting." It's actually the same as "begging." It's disgusting, IF the story is true.



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