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    Football: offense X's and O's question?

    After watching our offense this year, and a lot of other college football as well, I've got a question regarding our offense.

    Why don't we put a WR in motion running behind Arnaud and ARob? We used to do this with Lane Danielson and JJ Moses all the time, and although we didn't hand them the ball that often, when we did it usually worked for big yardage or even long TD's.

    I just think it helps a ton to keep the defense honest. They always need to keep their DE's honest to guard against the reverse play. Also... can you imagine if Arnaud had the option to fake the handoff to ARob running to the right side, and then he could roll out on a naked bootleg going left, but he also had Money or Lenz running with him going left to option pitch to if he wanted?

    I just love a lot of misdirection and feel we could use it a lot more to our advantage. Some might argue that putting this WR in motion running behind Arnaud and ARob takes one WR out of the passing options, but that would be wrong. If Arnaud fakes it to ARob, then fakes it to the WR in motion and drops back to pass.... he would have this WR that went in motion as an option to pass to in the flat as a dumpoff option... which we desperately need as well.

    Any thoughts?



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    Re: Football: offense X's and O's question?

    I think this has more to do with personal preference for our coaching staff. There was a trend that ran that type of play that has been surpassed by fresher "gimmicks" like the pistol, spread option, etc.

    I agree with you that I would like to see more misdirection, but I think over time we'll see more sophistication with Herman's offense.

    I really enjoyed the lineman pass from the Missouri game.



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    Re: Football: offense X's and O's question?

    If the defense is in a zone, you lose a blocker by putting someone in motion. Basically by running the fake and putting someone in motion, you're losing them in the play as any kind of blocker, and we don't exactly have any receivers who are huge threats to make people miss and run through tackles even if they get the handoff.



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    Re: Football: offense X's and O's question?

    that's not our offense. herman doesn't have to utilize every play out of every playbook to be effective



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    Re: Football: offense X's and O's question?

    From a personnel standpoint, I'm not sure we have anyone who is a legitimate threat with the ball in their hands that we could give the ball to there. Good "possession-type" recievers, just not guys that do a whole lot with the ball in their hands.


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    Re: Football: offense X's and O's question?

    Just wait until the speedy 5' 7" receiver enrolls next year (is his name Wright?). He sounds very much like a JJ Moses type of slot receiver who could end up running the ball frequently.



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    Re: Football: offense X's and O's question?

    Also, in zone blocking the Defensive end away from the play us almost always unblocked by the OL.
    When teams always were in 2-back, the FB would block him
    As 1-back became more prevalent, they needed a way to keep that end occupied, so end-arounds, reverses, and bootlegs were used a lot more.
    Now the spread is very popular, and that defensive end is read and that is what we all know as the "zone read"

    All the same blocking scheme but different ways of handling the unblocked DE.
    Hope this helps.


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    Re: Football: offense X's and O's question?

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    If the defense is in a zone, you lose a blocker by putting someone in motion. Basically by running the fake and putting someone in motion, you're losing them in the play as any kind of blocker, and we don't exactly have any receivers who are huge threats to make people miss and run through tackles even if they get the handoff.
    Josh Lenz?


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    Re: Football: offense X's and O's question?

    Quote Originally Posted by wartknight View Post
    Also, in zone blocking the Defensive end away from the play us almost always unblocked by the OL.
    When teams always were in 2-back, the FB would block him
    As 1-back became more prevalent, they needed a way to keep that end occupied, so end-arounds, reverses, and bootlegs were used a lot more.
    Now the spread is very popular, and that defensive end is read and that is what we all know as the "zone read"

    All the same blocking scheme but different ways of handling the unblocked DE.
    Hope this helps.
    Very nice writeup.



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