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    What Makes a Successful Season?

    I know it's hard to know what successful means at this point in the year, as we tend to make more game-to-game judgments. Are people ready for a down year as they were for McDermott? Will people just be happy if they see fundamentals being encouraged and a tougher style of play?



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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    I'm assuming that your question is football related. I think that next football season is about as up in the air as this basketball season was. There are more questions than answers. Will the offensive line come together? That could be the key to the season, and if it doesn't, it's going to be tough for them to be better than last year. How will players adapt to the new scheme and coaching style? It could be a Colorado style start to the season, but does anyone really question the coaching talents of Hawkins? I'm just going to sit back and watch the games, and then judge the season as a whole when it is over.



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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    I look at it this way: lets apply the McCarney Priniciple to next year's team since that's all we've known for so long. If Mac were the coach next year, I would think that we'd probably win 5 games at the most. Going on that theory, GC should win at least 5 games if he really is a better coach.



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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    I really have no idea about the number of wins that this team is capable of, in case you forgot we were one of the worst teams in D1 football last year, certainly in a BCS conference.

    I guess I want to see a team that competes, and blocks and tackles well (nice change). I want to see a team that makes adjustments, and forces the opponent to change to keep up.

    Oh, and most importantly, I want to see a team that will play the big boys on the schedule, and not be beaten before the game even starts (another refreshing change), except for the Iowa game of course.


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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    I have stated before that I go into the season with no win/loss expectations.

    The season will be successful to me if I can do the following:
    1. Shake my head less than 40 times a ball game.
    2. Not be able to guess the offensive play call prior to snap with 90% accuracy.

    If I can do those things, the season is succesful in my eyes.



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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    Quote Originally Posted by pulse View Post
    I look at it this way: lets apply the McCarney Priniciple to next year's team since that's all we've known for so long. If Mac were the coach next year, I would think that we'd probably win 5 games at the most. Going on that theory, GC should win at least 5 games if he really is a better coach.
    Did you watch this past Fall, at all. Hell, did you watch any of the past 12 years??? Where in the world are five wins for this team???

    I am not convinced that Gene can win three games with the mess that he was left. How do you think a McCarney coached team (known for losing 1-3 games per year that they should win) would have won five????? And if you are thinking of the influx of players, well we had 6 commitments when the previous coach resigned, none of which were offensive linemen.


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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    Jeesh darts calm down. Here is the way I looked at it assuming Mac was the coach:

    2007 Schedule
    Kent State WIN
    UNI WIN
    Iowa WIN
    Toledo LOSS
    Knebraska LOSS
    Tex Tech LOSS
    Texas LOSS
    Oklahoma LOSS
    Missouri LOSS
    Kansas State WIN
    Colorado WIN
    Kansas LOSS

    I don't think that is unreasonable for McCarney. There might have been another loss in there which would make 4 wins, but I think this would be an accurate prediction.

    So I think GC should be able to at least pull off what is listed above.



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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    Quote Originally Posted by pulse View Post
    Jeesh darts calm down. Here is the way I looked at it assuming Mac was the coach:

    2007 Schedule
    Kent State WIN
    UNI WIN
    Iowa WIN
    Toledo LOSS
    Knebraska LOSS
    Tex Tech LOSS
    Texas LOSS
    Oklahoma LOSS
    Missouri LOSS
    Kansas State WIN
    Colorado WIN
    Kansas LOSS

    I don't think that is unreasonable for McCarney. There might have been another loss in there which would make 4 wins, but I think this would be an accurate prediction.

    So I think GC should be able to at least pull off what is listed above.
    I am sorry if that came across as angry, it wasn't intended to be that way.

    The thing is that I saw the same thing with the basketball team this year. People trying to convince themselves that we are going to be better than what is realistic. It wouldn't bother me, except, as we saw during the basketball season, when the team didn't measure up to the inflated perceptions that people created themselves, they started taking shots at players, and even McDermott.

    I hope we can win 5 games, hell I hope we win all 12, but I remember how bad we were this Fall. More importantly, I see how much recruiting has to be done to fix all of the problems, and two months isn't enough time.


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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    D-Mac isn't the coach this fall - so it's moot. I liked the man yet it was time and I'm glad we moved on.

    I don't have many expectations this fall except to see the seniors actually lead the team and underclassmen improve as the season grows on. It's the first year in a new era so I expect some growing pains to exist.

    Having said that, if Chizik and staff can get the offensive line to play at an average or even slightly below average level in the Big 12, I think we could be in for a surprising season.



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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    Having said that, if Chizik and staff can get the offensive line to play at an average or even slightly below average level in the Big 12, I think we could be in for a surprising season.
    With our offensive weapons...this couldn't be more accurate.

    I really believe that Chizik will improve the defense. We were terrible last year and won 4 games. With many returning starters (except for the O-line) and if what ISUFan is saying happens...I don't think exceeding last years win total would be a stretch by any means.



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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    Especially when you look at what's been added for this fall.

    A WR that can stretch the field. A running back that looks rather nifty.

    A pair of much-needed defensive JUCOs that look like playmakers (Bell & Tate).

    So again, it's on our offensive/defensive lines this fall. I can't help but get excited thinking about what could be should those units improve.



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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    I'm siding with darts on this one...4 wins is my expectation, hopefully we pull off a couple surprises. Do some of you guys remember how badly we lost some of those games this past fall?



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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    I do remember. I'd rather not.

    I also remember there were critical moments in most of them that sent the game from an ok loss into a blow out. Parker's bonehead personal foul sticks out, yet it's not the only one.

    A problem with last year's team is the second adversity struck, the seemingly tucked their heads between their legs and took the butt kicking on the chin too. I look at Chizik as a guy that will kick his team's butt much worst than any opponent would if he thinks his guys are quitting or not giving 100%.



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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    It definitely depends on the team and the situation. If we're scoring points and are contenders in every game and not making huge mistakes, then I am more than happy with a 500 year.


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    Re: What Makes a Successful Season?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    A problem with last year's team is the second adversity struck, the seemingly tucked their heads between their legs and took the butt kicking on the chin too. I look at Chizik as a guy that will kick his team's butt much worst than any opponent would if he thinks his guys are quitting or not giving 100%.
    I see Chizik as an absolute maniac. I remember reading posts after Chizik first met with the team. He reportedly told them to sit up straight with both feet on the floor. He asked them how many of you think you can beat Texas and Oklahoma. He said he doubted that 25% of the team actually believed that. The intensity was reportedly scary. I hope this is really true and have no reason to believe it's not.



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