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    Current team's recruitment

    Would someone be able to put together a list of which coach recruited our current two deep roster and the former starters who were injured during the season? Just a total would be sufficient. I think Chizek gets too much credit for this year's success. McCarney, I asume, recruited the vast majority of the current players that see the field. With Sims, Reynolds and Knott coming to mind - Rhoads may have more on the field than we realize. I am guessing out of 22 on the 2 deep + injured that McCarney recruited 15+.



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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Using the current depth chart which is missing several players due to injury.

    McCarney - 21
    Chizik - 19
    Rhoads - 10


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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Please take into account that McCarneys recruits are the current Seniors and RS Juniors on the team. Those guys should be starting over underclassmen.
    The next couple of years will tell us how many of Chiziks guys will be quality starters.
    I actually like the mix of upperclassmen and underclassmen in our two deeps. Under DMac we usually only had Junior and Senior starters and were always scrambling to find replacements for the seniors.



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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Can you narrow it down to the 22 that likely get PT. Going to a total of 50 would include too many players that just showed up.



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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Quote Originally Posted by swiacy View Post
    Would someone be able to put together a list of which coach recruited our current two deep roster and the former starters who were injured during the season? Just a total would be sufficient. I think Chizek gets too much credit for this year's success. McCarney, I asume, recruited the vast majority of the current players that see the field. With Sims, Reynolds and Knott coming to mind - Rhoads may have more on the field than we realize. I am guessing out of 22 on the 2 deep + injured that McCarney recruited 15+.
    Mccarney recruited most of the starters and many of the key players like Arob, AA, Jesse Smith, Frere, etc.

    Chizik's best recruiting success looks it was on the OL and Defensive backfield (also recruited some promising young DL who are backups now).
    Chizik Recruit D starters: Chris Lyle, LJ, Banks, Benton (pretty much a starter).
    O Starters: KO, Haughton, Alvarez, Darks - special mention to C Franklin.

    Rhoads starters: Sims, Lenz (at times this year).



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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    The point is to determine who recruited the current team not down the road. Obviously Chizek's numbers will go up and McCarney's down after this year.



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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Quote Originally Posted by swiacy View Post
    Can you narrow it down to the 22 that likely get PT. Going to a total of 50 would include too many players that just showed up.
    Players listed as starters:

    McCarney - 14
    Chizik - 7
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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Who cares who gets the credit or who recruited who. They are all on the same team now. To what has been stated earlier I would expect way more players recruited in the Mac years to be included in the two deeps - they are upper classmen.

    Say what you want about chizik, he did raise the consciousness and expectations while at ISU.



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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Quote Originally Posted by GoShow97 View Post
    Who cares who gets the credit or who recruited who. They are all on the same team now. To what has been stated earlier I would expect way more players recruited in the Mac years to be included in the two deeps - they are upper classmen.

    Say what you want about chizik, he did raise the consciousness and expectations while at ISU.
    5-19. He lowered the bar in every facet.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    5-19. He lowered the bar in every facet.
    So you expected 5-19?



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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Quote Originally Posted by GoShow97 View Post
    So you expected 5-19?
    Chizik's hire raised expectations.

    Chizik's results put expectations back a good 10 years



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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Quote Originally Posted by GoShow97 View Post
    So you expected 5-19?
    No. That's how he lowered the bar. When he came in, we were two years removed from a bowl game. He didn't win enough games in two years to become bowl eligible for one season. He lowered the bar. My expectations are always bowl game or bust, but that doesn't mean that he didn't lower the quailty of football during his brief stint.



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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Man, move on. Chizik brought in good athletes (only had 1 true recruiting class), but did not have any worthwhile assistants to coach them, except for Rodgers.



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    Re: Current team's recruitment

    Quote Originally Posted by Bader View Post
    Chizik's hire raised expectations.

    Chizik's results put expectations back a good 10 years
    No argument there. Glad he left.

    For anyone to say he failed on all levels is silly.

    Funny how Mac was 5-17 his first two years but that gets overlooked. Gotta love the double standard some employ.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    No. That's how he lowered the bar. When he came in, we were two years removed from a bowl game. He didn't win enough games in two years to become bowl eligible for one season. He lowered the bar. My expectations are always bowl game or bust, but that doesn't mean that he didn't lower the quailty of football during his brief stint.
    History says otherwise.



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