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    No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    AMES, Iowa – Victoria Henson had 13 kills and hit .333 to lead No. 8 Iowa State to a 3-0 (25-17, 25-20, 25-20) sweep of Kansas Wednesday night at Hilton Coliseum.

    With the win, ISU is 23-4 overall and 15-3 in conference play. The Cyclones sit just one win shy of tying the school’s NCAA record for wins.

    Iowa State head coach Christy Johnson-Lynch said the Cyclones’ success this season is due in large part to the consistency they’ve played with this season.

    "We're having a really fun, great season,” Johnson-Lynch said. “I think it is a reflection of how our program has improved and taken a step up each year. I don't think we've played a bad match this year. Some years you have ups and downs. Consistency is a hard thing to achieve."

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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    Man this is a good team.



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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    *WOOT* Good job ladies!!!!



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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    “I think it is a reflection of how our program has improved and taken a step up each year
    Starting lineup...

    1 SR (Manns)
    1 JR (Henson)
    3 SO (Hockaday, Peterson, Stadick)
    1 FR (Straube)

    Key contributors - Mahoney (SO), Mass (JR)

    Losing Manns is like losing your QB in football. Not easy to just step in without missing a beat. By Landwehr has the resume to be as good if not better.

    But wow - not much reason to expect any dropoff in the near future. Not with so many underclassmen.


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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    Excuse my ignorance, but when do the playoffs start?




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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but when do the playoffs start?
    Dec. 3



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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    DaddyMac, how does rotating work? Does it just involve who is serving or does everyone have to switch positions.


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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    Caitlin Mahoney comes back...yum. That's all I needed to know. :)



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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    Quote Originally Posted by wesley_w View Post
    DaddyMac, how does rotating work? Does it just involve who is serving or does everyone have to switch positions.
    And, it appears that some players just substitute and other times the official needs to signal the okay. Am I just missing something or are there different types of substitutions?



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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    Quote Originally Posted by Ms3r4ISU View Post
    And, it appears that some players just substitute and other times the official needs to signal the okay. Am I just missing something or are there different types of substitutions?
    I think the libero (SP?) is the player with the opposite colored jersey and they can substitute whenever they want. All the others must have to check in.


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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    Basically - rotations occur in a clockwise motion, and everyone moves - not just to the server spot. This is key because there are differences in what backrow players can do, and what front row players can do.

    -------- (net)
    1 2 3
    6 5 4

    The numbers really "mean" nothing, just positions. 1 moves to 2, 2 to 3, 3 to 4 ..... 6 to 1. Clockwise. Person in the 4 position (in this example) is the server. You rotate each sideout (change of serve). But you have to maintain your "position" on the court. Namely (and I might have the rotation wrong) Henson has to stay to the left of Straube, and the right of Manns. Straube has to stay to the right of Henson, and the left of Peterson. Etc and so on. So there's an orderly, clockwise motion to moving around the court.

    Hope that makes sense.

    Ms3r4ISU - you're talking about the libero substitution, and it is confusing. I can't even explain it well. But each team is allowed one "libero". Ours is Ashley Mass and she wears a different color uni, much like a goalie in soccer. She has a "natural" position on the court - I believe hers is the same as Stadicks.

    So Deb will be a starter (I don't believe a Libero can start a game - she must sub in). Then the refs will check the lineup against a card that the coaches give the scorer to show where everyone is to be positioned relative to one another on the court (see above).

    Once that is complete - Ashley comes straight in. The libero is the one player that does not need to call for a sub to the officials. She can run on and off the court as needed. In her "natural" position, she can also serve when her spot comes. So in this instance, it's really not much different than when Mahoney comes in the back row for Peterson to serve and play defense.

    Now it gets fun.

    After Straube serves, Mass can now come in the back row (with out a ref sub) and play back row for Straube. Note: Straube and Stadick are opposite each other in the rotation - so Straube is now in the front row. Because coming in for Stadick is not Mass's "natural" position, she can't serve, and Stadick does serve. But after, Ashley will come in and play back row defense.

    Now Mahoney is considered a "backrow specialist" and not our designated libero. So she must sub in/out as any other player - through the down official.

    Confused? So am I. And I hope I got that right. Been a long time since I've ref'd and had to memorize the rule book.

    There's a ton more limitations imposed on the libero (can't set with hands in front of the 3M line, can't attack ever/anywhere from above the net, etc). But that's the nuts and bolts of how the rotation works.


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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    Quote Originally Posted by wesley_w View Post
    I think the libero (SP?) is the player with the opposite colored jersey and they can substitute whenever they want. All the others must have to check in.
    Pretty much it Wes. I believe the libero has to Sub in normally to start the game to establish a spot on the court.

    BTW - when any player comes into the game at a certain spot - they can only come back into the game at that spot. So once Mahoney subs in for Peterson - she and Peterson can only come back in at that same spot. Not like she can later sub in for Henson or Straube or some other position on the court.

    More than 2 players can share a spot, however.

    BTW - she loves the camera. Thanks for your help.


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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    Close DaddyMac.

    There is no such thing or term as a "natural" position. Libero switches are called "replacements" as opposed to substitutions(which are supervised by the R2). Replacements are required to take place between the attack line and the endline, while substitutions take place between the attack line and the center line. There is a libero tracker at the scorer's table who keeps track of replacements to make sure they are all legal (and also substitutions - as of this year). The only limitation on liberos is that when they go out, they must stay out for "one" rally(unless they are the next server), and then can return for anyone who is in the back row. They can serve in any position, but once they serve in that set, that is the only rotation they can serve in for that set. This is also noted on the scoresheet and tracking sheet.

    Basically, if the libero completes an improper replacement - the penalty can range from a delay sanction to a loss of rally, depending on when it is discovered/rectified. Another thing that casual fans are not aware of is that technically the libero could play all six postions on the floor, while those positions are in the back row - subject to the replacement limitations.

    Also - teams are limited to 12 substitutions per set.



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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    DaddyMac and gizzsdad, thank you for the information. This team is so much fun to watch. It's nice to see that they're getting the fans behind them.



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    Re: No. 8 Cyclones Dispose of Kansas, 3-0

    Quote Originally Posted by gizzsdad View Post
    Close DaddyMac.

    There is no such thing or term as a "natural" position. Libero switches are called "replacements" as opposed to substitutions(which are supervised by the R2). Replacements are required to take place between the attack line and the endline, while substitutions take place between the attack line and the center line. There is a libero tracker at the scorer's table who keeps track of replacements to make sure they are all legal (and also substitutions - as of this year). The only limitation on liberos is that when they go out, they must stay out for "one" rally(unless they are the next server), and then can return for anyone who is in the back row. They can serve in any position, but once they serve in that set, that is the only rotation they can serve in for that set. This is also noted on the scoresheet and tracking sheet.

    Basically, if the libero completes an improper replacement - the penalty can range from a delay sanction to a loss of rally, depending on when it is discovered/rectified. Another thing that casual fans are not aware of is that technically the libero could play all six postions on the floor, while those positions are in the back row - subject to the replacement limitations.

    Also - teams are limited to 12 substitutions per set.
    yeah - I haven't played or ref'd since about 2002. So my terminology is probably off with all the changes that have taken place. Libero was a fairly new concept back then.

    But what your stating about the libero having a single serving position - is what I was referring to as a natural position. For those following along. What this mean is that the libero CAN'T serve in the back row for Stadick AND then come back in and serve for Straube. She has to wait that one rotation till Straube has completed serving before she can reenter. She can only serve in one spot through the rotation.

    But I'm not sure... can she reenter after Straube is done serving, but is still in RB and receiving? Or does she have to wait for a ratation when Straube is in MB? I think the former.

    And just to be clear - the libero has no replacement limitations, whereas the rest of the teams substitutions are limited to the aforementioned 12. And for my clarification - any player can come in/out as many times as they want, up to the 12 sub limit, correct (way back when - it was a 3 sub per person limit. That's gone, correct?)



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