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    k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    what happens if we tie k-state and nebraska?


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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    I don't see how we could tie with either one. KSU has the tie-breaker against us, and we have it against kNu.



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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    if nebraska loses today and against colorado, but beats k-state next week who wins the big 12 north?


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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    I don't think its possible for us to win the North because KSU beat us.



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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    is it possible for nebraska to win the north since we beat them if we both finisht 4=4?


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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    Quote Originally Posted by dundermifflin View Post
    if nebraska loses today and against colorado, but beats k-state next week who wins the big 12 north?
    It depends, because Neb also still has to play Colorado.



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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    Quote Originally Posted by pulse View Post
    I don't think its possible for us to win the North because KSU beat us.
    Well, in that scenario, it shouldn't be possible for Nebraska to win the North because we beat them, and then K-State shouldn't be able to win it because they lost to Nebraska - thus the point of this argument...


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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    Quote Originally Posted by dundermifflin View Post
    what happens if we tie k-state and nebraska?
    It's obscenely convoluted (see OU, Texas, Texas Tech last year)

    KSU is 4-3 in conference.
    Nebraska is 3-2 in conference.

    At this point, we're out. Even with a win and a KSU loss, we'd be tied at 4-4, KSU wins first head-to-head tiebreaker.

    KSU wins in Lincoln - they go to title game, period.
    Nebraska beats KSU and either KU or CU, they go to title game.
    Nebraska beats KSU but loses to BOTH KU and CU, and ISU beats Mizzou...Nebraska, KSU, and ISU are tied at 4-4... 3 way tie...

    Records of 3 teams against each other: roundabout losses
    Records of 3 teams within their division:

    ISU would be 3-2
    NU would be 2-3
    KSU would be 3-2

    I don't know if that eliminates NU or not...

    Records compared against teams #4, #5, #6 in Big XII North...

    Now I'm lost... **** it, let's just win next weekend...


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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    They go to division record after overall record. Of course, I'm too lazy to figure that out.

    http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...ATCLID=1546006



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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    Quote Originally Posted by superfan View Post
    It's obscenely convoluted (see OU, Texas, Texas Tech last year), but it's not possible.

    KSU is 6-5 right now, with one game remaining (in Lincoln)
    NU is 6-3 now, pending tonights game at KU.

    Nebraska controls their own destiny right now. If they win 2 of their remaining 3, they're at 8-4, and nobody can catch them.

    ASSUMING WE BEAT MIZZOU next week (puts us at 7-5)

    If KSU wins at Nebraska and Nebraska LOSES to either KU or CU, all three teams will be 7-5, with KSU taking the tiebreaker (beating both NU and ISU)

    If KSU loses at Nebraska and Nebraska LOSES to BOTH KU and CU, ISU takes the tiebreaker (KSU is 6-6, ISU is 7-5, NU is 7-5, ISU winning head-to-head)
    you have to look at conference record, not overall


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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    KSU currently has four wins, if we win next week we get to four wins, but KSU still has the tie-breaker. So there's no way we can win the North outright, correct?



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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    Quote Originally Posted by dundermifflin View Post
    is it possible for nebraska to win the north since we beat them if we both finisht 4=4?
    The way I see it, we cannot win the North because of our head-to-head loss to KSU, in a situation where we were both 4-4. This makes any scenario with Neb meaningless as far as our North title possibilities because we can't win it anyway because of KSU.



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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    but it is three way tie if nebraska is also 4-4


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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    wow, some people just don't understand the concept of a 3-way tie.


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    Re: k-state / i-state / nebraska 3 way tie

    do you really not understand that what you are saying does not factor in a 3 way tie?


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