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    Redshirting?

    I really don't want to interrupt the HB thing going on but getting back to this year. People have talked about Oliver, Dorr, Bubu, ect. redshirting this year - My question is what is the time line on the younger kids to redshirt and who decides this? Any info on this?



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    Re: Redshirting?

    Well, we all know that we have plenty of experienced guard this year and Oliver needs to hit the weight room. I don't think redshirting Oliver was a very difficult decision.



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    Re: Redshirting?

    Need to redshirt before the first game (not counting exhibition) The coaches/player decides on redshirt.



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    Re: Redshirting?

    I think it's fairly unusual to redshirt a walk-on. Pretty difficult to tell a guy that he has to pay for 5 years of school to play 4.



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    Re: Redshirting?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCy View Post
    I think it's fairly unusual to redshirt a walk-on. Pretty difficult to tell a guy that he has to pay for 5 years of school to play 4.
    Agreed. I remember Brock Jacobson was redshirted as a preferred walk-on of Wayne Morgan's in 05-06.. and he ended up leaving the team before his eligibility was up because he graduated.



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    Re: Redshirting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dormeezy View Post
    Agreed. I remember Brock Jacobson was redshirted as a preferred walk-on of Wayne Morgan's in 05-06.. and he ended up leaving the team before his eligibility was up because he graduated.
    In fairness, he left because his body wouldn't physically hold up to him playing basketball...



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    Re: Redshirting?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCy View Post
    I think it's fairly unusual to redshirt a walk-on. Pretty difficult to tell a guy that he has to pay for 5 years of school to play 4.
    Go to the ISU website and listen to Coach. He said the walkons will redshirt unless we need Dorr for depth



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    Re: Redshirting?

    I suspect thqat the idea is that if either walkon proves good enough to actually play a substantial amount a fifth year, they might be on scholarship.




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    Re: Redshirting?

    I was all for redshirting Oliver, but now I don't think they should. Might as well let him play and develop as quickly as possible. Really liked what I saw of him--long arms, athletic, disruptive on defense (3 steals), has a decent shot (looked good in warmups and rattled a 3 in during the game), and very athletic (dunk). If we have him w/ experience next year that + Ejim will help replace Gilstrap (if no HB). Also, will be good to have him this year to potentially rest Gilstrap.



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    Re: Redshirting?

    Quote Originally Posted by saf View Post
    I was all for redshirting Oliver, but now I don't think they should. Might as well let him play and develop as quickly as possible. Really liked what I saw of him--long arms, athletic, disruptive on defense (3 steals), has a decent shot (looked good in warmups and rattled a 3 in during the game), and very athletic (dunk). If we have him w/ experience next year that + Ejim will help replace Gilstrap (if no HB). Also, will be good to have him this year to potentially rest Gilstrap.
    Completely disagree. What he could potentially give us in a 5th year is much greater than the spot minutes he would give us this year.



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    Re: Redshirting?

    I have been told different things about redshirting: needs to be before first game, needs to be before first conference game, ect. - I didn't understand redshirting a walk-on unless maybe down the road there is a possibility of playing time.... He is paying his own way and wants to be there regardless.



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    Re: Redshirting?

    No offense but what Oliver did was in garbage time against a terrible team's subs. I like what I saw too but you have to consider who he was playing against. He probably could have started for that team...

    A redshirt is the best option for him right now


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    Re: Redshirting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clone5 View Post
    Completely disagree. What he could potentially give us in a 5th year is much greater than the spot minutes he would give us this year.
    I'm with you 100% on this. He wouldn't see much time this year, and we have enough lineup options that those spot minutes aren't necessary.

    What he could do after developing in a redshirt year, though, would be incredible to watch! I really like this guy. When he gets going, he'll be a real fan favorite


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    Re: Redshirting?

    Quote Originally Posted by bel79 View Post
    I have been told different things about redshirting: needs to be before first game, needs to be before first conference game, ect.
    There is no rule that says you have to "declare" a redshirt at any point before or during the season. As long as the player in question doesn't appear in a non-exhibition game, the redshirt is preserved.

    If he goes the entire season and doesn't play, then he and the coaches have the option to decide whether to consider it as a redshirt year, or as a normal year.



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    Re: Redshirting?

    Yeah, I know the quality of the team he was playing against. I'm bipolar on the whole subject (despite what I wrote), but it seems the trend (for me) is that if I'm feeling good about the future I think we should play him (as we'll keep getting better and bring in more and more solid recruits); if I'm negative about the future I think we should redshirt him, as we need him for as long as possible and to fill that spot in the future. Like I said, bipolar. :)



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