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    Gilstrap question

    I know I've heard bits and pieces why Gilstrap might not get another year, but can someone give me the reasoning why he should NOT be allowed another year? I've heard basically he had an injury that kept him out for two basketball seasons.


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    Re: Gilstrap question

    Quote Originally Posted by mjones34 View Post
    I know I've heard bits and pieces why Gilstrap might not get another year, but can someone give me the reasoning why he should NOT be allowed another year? I've heard basically he had an injury that kept him out for two basketball seasons.

    The rule is stupid. I get the idea that they don't want really old players to get a year, but Gilstrap isn't that old and he has only played basketball in a college setting for 1.5 years. There is no reason why he shouldn't get another year, but we don't own the NCAA like others do.



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    Re: Gilstrap question

    I'm pretty sure its because he quit basketball on his own, at least thats what I remember hearing.



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    Re: Gilstrap question

    Quote Originally Posted by mjones34 View Post
    I know I've heard bits and pieces why Gilstrap might not get another year, but can someone give me the reasoning why he should NOT be allowed another year? I've heard basically he had an injury that kept him out for two basketball seasons.
    Yes...normally it takes the same number of injuries as missed years for the NCAA to allow you to play.



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    Re: Gilstrap question

    The rule is 5 years to play 4 seasons from the moment your eligibility starts. This is the 5th year since he originally started JC.




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    Re: Gilstrap question

    So are they following a rule just because it's a rule and not actually taking his situation into account?


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    Re: Gilstrap question

    Quote Originally Posted by jsb View Post
    The rule is stupid. I get the idea that they don't want really old players to get a year, but Gilstrap isn't that old and he has only played basketball in a college setting for 1.5 years. There is no reason why he shouldn't get another year, but we don't own the NCAA like others do.

    Had he stayed in school and rehabbed the injury then he would have no problem getting the 6th year. The fact that he quit school makes it very doubtful in my opinion.



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    Re: Gilstrap question

    Quote Originally Posted by mjones34 View Post
    So are they following a rule just because it's a rule and not actually taking his situation into account?
    Meet Lucca Staiger.




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    Re: Gilstrap question

    I believe he quit school entirely for a year or two. That's the big sticking point I believe.



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    Re: Gilstrap question

    It is also my understanding, the appeal process can't even start until this season has finished.



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    Re: Gilstrap question

    I don't think a player can appeal for a 6th year until after they have completed their 5th year.

    I'm pretty sure that the NCAA has restricted the 6th year to those players who have missed 2 years with medical hardship. If so, the 2 years that Gilstrap sat out would have to be retroactively reclassified as medical hardship.



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    Re: Gilstrap question

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCy View Post
    I don't think a player can appeal for a 6th year until after they have completed their 5th year.

    I'm pretty sure that the NCAA has restricted the 6th year to those players who have missed 2 years with medical hardship. If so, the 2 years that Gilstrap sat out would have to be retroactively reclassified as medical hardship.
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    Re: Gilstrap question

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    It is also my understanding, the appeal process can't even start until this season has finished.
    I think you are correct here which means we will have to wait until at least April 6th to appeal it since we'll be playing for a national championship on April 5th



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    Re: Gilstrap question

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Had he stayed in school and rehabbed the injury then he would have no problem getting the 6th year. The fact that he quit school makes it very doubtful in my opinion.
    BINGO...this is the big issue. The NCAA will not do anything that is going to lead to kids thinking they can drop out of school after they get hurt and then jump back in.



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    Re: Gilstrap question

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonenum1 View Post
    BINGO...this is the big issue. The NCAA will not do anything that is going to lead to kids thinking they can drop out of school after they get hurt and then jump back in.

    I guess I don't see why this would be a huge deal. He broke a leg or something. Possibly didn't know if he could play again. He went to find a job. He decided to come back. it's not like he isn't in school or hasn't been in school.



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