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    3rd down comp % wins more games

    Iowa State has a slight edge over Oklahoma St on 3rd down completion percentage and in a league like big 12 it has been the 3rd down completion % that determine the winner of most games. I like to see Iowa State convert on 3rd downs, especially in the red zone. Our O line should be a big help in this game.


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    Re: 3rd down comp % wins more games

    Quote Originally Posted by clonomaniac View Post
    Iowa State has a slight edge over Oklahoma St on 3rd down completion percentage and in a league like big 12 it has been the 3rd down completion % that determine the winner of most games. I like to see Iowa State convert on 3rd downs, especially in the red zone. Our O line should be a big help in this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by clonomaniac View Post
    3rd down comp % wins more games
    To be fair, then how is it that we have a better 3rd down completion percentage than OSU but they have a lot better record?



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    Re: 3rd down comp % wins more games

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    To be fair, then how is it that we have a better 3rd down completion percentage than OSU but they have a lot better record?

    That's a good question. I will have to check the teams Okie State beat and their comp % on 3rd down. I just think this game will come down to converting on 3rd downs and putting points on the board. Field goals won't do anything for us this Saturday.


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    Re: 3rd down comp % wins more games

    It could...but I'm concerned how many times they'll even need to complete a pass or even run to convert 3rd downs. You'd have to look at how many 3rd downs OSU and ISU have faced on the season. My bet is we've been in a lot more 3rd down situations than OSU has.

    Also, while we may have a better completion percentage on 3rd down - how many of those are converted into 1st down and are not completed passes that didn't make the 1st down yard marker?



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    Re: 3rd down comp % wins more games

    Iowa State's is only 1% better than OSU's. And we've had 26 more tries at 3rd down as well.

    The reason OSU's record is better than ours is probably the fact that they make 1st down's more often on 1st and 2nd down and don't even need 3rd down.



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    Re: 3rd down comp % wins more games

    Quote Originally Posted by price26 View Post
    Iowa State's is only 1% better than OSU's. And we've had 26 more tries at 3rd down as well.

    The reason OSU's record is better than ours is probably the fact that they make 1st down's more often on 1st and 2nd down and don't even need 3rd down.
    Exactly.

    The optimism is good, yet this is a reach to look for a stat we match up on.



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    Re: 3rd down comp % wins more games

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    To be fair, then how is it that we have a better 3rd down completion percentage than OSU but they have a lot better record?
    Okie State's two losses are against Houston and Texas, and both of them have a higher completion percentage on 3rd downs. The rest of the nonconference teams Okie State beat are Georgia (38%), Rice (32%), and Grambling (35%). A&M is the only team that Okie State beat which has a higher 3rd down completion rate but back when they played A&M the numbers may have been different.


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    Re: 3rd down comp % wins more games

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    To be fair, then how is it that we have a better 3rd down completion percentage than OSU but they have a lot better record?
    Because they don't wait until 3rd down to be productive. They move the ball on first and second down I don't know if that si true or not jsut food for thought



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    Re: 3rd down comp % wins more games

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    Because they don't wait until 3rd down to be productive. They move the ball on first and second down I don't know if that si true or not jsut food for thought
    It was a rhetorical question. :)



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    Re: 3rd down comp % wins more games

    I'm more concerned with our (in)ability to get 3rd down stops.


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    Re: 3rd down comp % wins more games

    I thought that was a killer for us in the aTm game. Our Offense had a lot of third and shorts that they did not convert.



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