Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: REFS....explain

  1. #1
    Addict Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    Dave19642006's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    5,853
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    REFS....explain

    Why are they having Big 12 Refs and SEC ref, Big 10 refs...why not just have refs... that referee the games... so if they do a Big 12 game one week let them do a SEC the next... and so on. They mae it sound like there is "Different" rules when you play in different conferences...please explain



  2. #2
    Bench Warmer drunkincy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    276
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: REFS....explain

    Contracts....



  3. #3
    All-Star
    Points: 20,136, Level: 43
    Level completed: 32%, Points required for next Level: 614
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran10000 Experience Points
    Cardinal&Gold11's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Ames, Iowa
    Posts
    1,861
    Points
    20,136
    Level
    43
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3
    Given: 2

    Re: REFS....explain

    I'm thinking the traveling issues? could be wrong, but just a guess


    "These are my new shoes. They're good shoes. They won't make you rich like me, they won't make you rebound like me, they definitely won't make you handsome like me. They'll only make you have shoes like me. That's it." - Charles Barkley

  4. #4
    Hall-Of-Famer Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    3,794
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: REFS....explain

    Referees are hired by each conference. Who else would/could hire them? The home team or the visiting team certainly can't hire the refs as it would create a conflict of interest. It would be difficult for the NCAA to hire them as they're dealing with literally thousands of referees who are paid differently (Big 12 pays more than Missouri Valley which pays more than Div II which pays more than Div III, etc.). And it would take an army of people to evaluate them and decide who should move up to bigger games and who should not. So it has always been conferences that hire referees, for both football and basketball. In basketball, almost all referees work for multiple conferences and it is not unusual to see the same ref working a Big 12 game one night, a Big 10 game the next night, and a Pac 10 game the following night (e.g. Ed Hightower). Theoretically a football referee could do the same thing but since 99% of the games are on Saturdays, it would be almost impossible.


    Gene Smith, 1993-2000. 7 years, 6 NCAA's, 1 bowl game. Revenue sports postseason participation 50%. Good.
    Bruce Vandevelde, 2000-20005. 5 years, 4 bowl games, 2 NCAA's, 2 NIT's. Postseason participation 80%. Better.
    Jamie Pollard, 2005-. 4 years. 1 bowl game, 0 NCAA's, 0 NIT's. Postseason participation: 13%. The next big step.

    My ignore list: splitidentity, tarheelhawk,superdorf, clones_jer. That is all.

  5. #5
    Addict Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    Dave19642006's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    5,853
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: REFS....explain

    just was refering to Division 1......but you still would need the same amount of referees ...make the pay the same... and that solves it...



  6. #6
    All-Star
    Points: 22,591, Level: 46
    Level completed: 5%, Points required for next Level: 959
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    1,019
    Points
    22,591
    Level
    46
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 11
    Given: 0

    Re: REFS....explain

    Who would you control the refs. I mean, if they screwed up a call like pass interference when the ball lands 10 yards out of bounds who else would be able to punish them. Oh, wait, never mind.


    Believing in Kermuflin since 2009!

  7. #7
    Walk On
    Points: 9,871, Level: 29
    Level completed: 87%, Points required for next Level: 79
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    174
    Points
    9,871
    Level
    29
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: REFS....explain

    The conferences actually can have different rules. When the NCAA first started doing instant replay, some conferences had it, some didn't, and the conferences that did have it had different rules for implementing it.



  8. #8
    Addict
    Points: 118,867, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    cyclonenum1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    7,181
    Points
    118,867
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: REFS....explain

    The referees are not full time. They have other full time employment. As such, travel would certainly be an issue. In addition to that, at present each conference hires their own crews.



    I cheer for two teams, Iowa State and whoever is playing the hawkeyes.

  9. #9
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 111,531, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 14.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience PointsSocial
    ruxCYtable's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    4,119
    Points
    111,531
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 276
    Given: 307

    Re: REFS....explain

    Referees are independent contractors. Each league has an assignor who is charged with hiring officials. When you hear the term "Big XII crew" it only refers to what conference contracted with them for that particular game. It does not mean they don't work in other leagues. Most officials work in multiple leagues. During bowl season you will hear of crews being from a specific league. That is only because they were "nominated" by a particular league for a bowl game.



  10. #10
    Speechless
    Points: 213,905, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 29.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    16,886
    Points
    213,905
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 677
    Given: 390

    Re: REFS....explain

    Probably has a lot to do with travel as well.



  11. #11
    Addict Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    Dave19642006's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    5,853
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: REFS....explain

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonenum1 View Post
    The referees are not full time. They have other full time employment. As such, travel would certainly be an issue. In addition to that, at present each conference hires their own crews.
    good point...


    "at present each conference hires their own crews" - that can be also be bad...as in paying off and throwing the games-



  12. #12
    Addict Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    Dave19642006's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    5,853
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: REFS....explain

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    Probably has a lot to do with travel as well.
    Travel can be eleviated with planes - tere are personal jets that these schools have... use that... make the colleges flip the bill.<just a suggestion>..they make a tons on bowl games, as for different rules... thats a crock... rules should all be the same.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: TBD
  • Iowa State vs. Oklahoma
  • November 1, 2014
  • 07:00 PM