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    Campustown Revitalization

    Thought some of you that took part in the other thread discussing campus would be interested in this. Part of the City Council's agenda from last nights meeting. Thoughts?

    http://www.cityofames.org/CouncilWeb/AgendaCAFs/41.pdf



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    Gonna have a hard time finding a developer like that in this economy, but at least they are putting forth an effort. One thing is for sure, the area has a LOT of people nearby, so that's at least a plus. I have a hard time believing that ISU is going to lease a bunch of office space with the new buildings going up on campus and the number of employees not exactly increasing.

    I do like that the university and the city are working together here. Maybe they DO understand how important Campustown is to both.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    Looks like they are moving ahead based on the study that was released last spring about the same thing.

    Two things, one as Frak noted, is good luck getting an interested developer right now. Two, too much office space in Campustown will not work. I can see the demand for it but it really should be a commercial and entertainment district first and an office area second.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    They were doing studies when I started at ISU in 2004. When they have funding established and are getting bids, then we will talk.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    Has the city and isu not seen the amount of commecial space avaliable in this town. Wow, theres tons of space not rented right now, and its been that way for a few years with some of it.





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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    I am not a fan of the office building idea either, unfortunately it sounds like thats what the city and university want so they may be heading down that path. Going back to those plans that the university had, the 3 concepts, I like the first concept. It doesn't add too much space to what is already in campus town. The only thing I would change to concept 1 is make college creek totally visible/ make a little park out of it. And also ensure that the first level of that building in the lower left corner is strictly for retail. I am fine having the second floor be an office building, but that is it.

    I tried uploading that pdf of that report but I am having trouble so that everyone can remember what concept 1 was. Sorry.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    my guess is they want to promote some offices down there to build traffic for the street level businesses during daytime hours.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    They need to make it a Ped Mall. Drop the 21 age limit to get into bars and Make a bunch of 19 and over bars. Renovate Jack Trice, move us to the Big 10 and we would be frickin good to go.

    Seriously...They don't need office space down there. they need open gathering areas, Lower taxes, A couple decent resturants, Beautification projects and some classy bars. I really do think the 21 and over bars is what separates Iowa City from Ames. You talking about adding 10,000 more people to your Campus town Bar scene.
    Now it being the ethical thing to do........Don't know.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    Quote Originally Posted by HandSanitizer View Post
    They need to make it a Ped Mall. Drop the 21 age limit to get into bars and Make a bunch of 19 and over bars. Renovate Jack Trice, move us to the Big 10 and we would be frickin good to go.

    Seriously...They don't need office space down there. they need open gathering areas, Lower taxes, A couple decent resturants, Beautification projects and some classy bars. I really do think the 21 and over bars is what separates Iowa City from Ames. You talking about adding 10,000 more people to your Campus town Bar scene.
    Now it being the ethical thing to do........Don't know.
    Why bring more people to Campustown? The City of Ames wants people going Downtown, not to Campustown. Remember the proposal to bring back the Dinkey?

    I'm sorry, this still smells to me like a plan to kill Campustown.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    Quote Originally Posted by superfan View Post
    Why bring more people to Campustown? The City of Ames wants people going Downtown, not to Campustown. Remember the proposal to bring back the Dinkey?

    I'm sorry, this still smells to me like a plan to kill Campustown.
    not gonna lie, i wondered that a little too. the whole 'draw people from 'all of ames' there. Almost sounds like 'get rid of bars, put in space for more things that wont survive there'



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson83 View Post
    my guess is they want to promote some offices down there to build traffic for the street level businesses during daytime hours.
    Not to mention they could supply traffic during the dead months during the summer or winter break.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    Quote Originally Posted by superfan View Post
    Why bring more people to Campustown? The City of Ames wants people going Downtown, not to Campustown. Remember the proposal to bring back the Dinkey?

    I'm sorry, this still smells to me like a plan to kill Campustown.
    No, they want people going to both. Do you really believe the City would see a benefit in killing Campustown? Would downtown business increase? Probably, but the all the business lost in Campustown would not be made up downtown.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    Quote Originally Posted by HandSanitizer View Post
    They need to make it a Ped Mall. Drop the 21 age limit to get into bars and Make a bunch of 19 and over bars. Renovate Jack Trice, move us to the Big 10 and we would be frickin good to go.

    Seriously...They don't need office space down there. they need open gathering areas, Lower taxes, A couple decent resturants, Beautification projects and some classy bars. I really do think the 21 and over bars is what separates Iowa City from Ames. You talking about adding 10,000 more people to your Campus town Bar scene.
    Now it being the ethical thing to do........Don't know.
    Yeah that's just what needs to happen, turn Ames into a sewer with a bunch of drunken underage morons running amok. If the IC council could change that ordinance, they would've a long time ago, but the amount of money it brings in keeps their hands tied.

    Unfortunately, our campustown resembles the crapper in IC except there is less to do. Hence, revitalization plans.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    I really don't believe in the idea of adding more ground level space, I just want campus town nice. On another note regarding foot traffic. I forgot who or where I heard this but someone but one possible reason why there are no good restaurants in campus town is due to ISU dinning since almost everyone just eats at the dinning centers or the MU rather than making a trip to campus town. Unfortunately, this is one of the cases to have office space.



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    Re: Campustown Revitalization

    Quote Originally Posted by SCNCY View Post
    I really don't believe in the idea of adding more ground level space, I just want campus town nice. On another note regarding foot traffic. I forgot who or where I heard this but someone but one possible reason why there are no good restaurants in campus town is due to ISU dinning since almost everyone just eats at the dinning centers or the MU rather than making a trip to campus town. Unfortunately, this is one of the cases to have office space.
    Yeah, a likely reason that the students primarily eat at the dining centers is because that's free - college kids don't have a ton of money, and it's not uncommon for that money to go to beer/entertainment rather than food. I know that I tend to avoid campustown just because it sucks to drive through and there's no parking - and I'm not alone. Unless those two things can change drastically, I don't see how this is going to work.


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