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    Herman concerned about passing game?

    For five weeks, Iowa State offensive coordinator Tom Herman has seen the same thing.

    Errant passes from quarterback Austen Arnaud. Receivers incorrectly running routes. Passes being dropped....

    ...“It’s not a good thing that we are still seeing those problems in week five,” Herman said. “But it’s still encouraging knowing that those problems are fixable problems that will be fixed hopefully sooner than later.”
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    ...Herman said the Cyclones are having issues with basic football concepts and the problems aren’t stemming from the players’ adjustment to his no-huddle spread offense.
    Interesting article, read the rest here.

    Go Cyclones - For passing game to soar Cyclones must master basics#



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    Thats good I am concerned too!



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    It shows by the way he is calling games.



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    Seems like our football teams have always struggled with "basic football concepts." Why is that? I remember hearing that McCarney didn't do tackling drills/technique in practice because he thought the players should have already learned that, yet we continued to miss tackles and get run over in games. Granted, that is hearsay and is probably inadmissable. But it just seems like our guys have always had problems with basic football skills at the most inopportune times. For example, why the hell are we the only football team in the history of the sport that has struggled to run a screen pass correctly?



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    Quote Originally Posted by cardinal&gold View Post
    Seems like our football teams have always struggled with "basic football concepts." Why is that? I remember hearing that McCarney didn't do tackling drills/technique in practice because he thought the players should have already learned that, yet we continued to miss tackles and get run over in games. Granted, that is hearsay and is probably inadmissable. But it just seems like our guys have always had problems with basic football skills at the most inopportune times. For example, why the hell are we the only football team in the history of the sport that has struggled to run a screen pass correctly?
    I believe you may have confused this with Chizik.

    As we have some former Mac players on here maybe they can confirm or deny.

    But back to the article...

    Of course Herman should be concerned. The only two receivers that have figured it out are Williams and Hamilton. Catlett and Franklin have appeared to catch on as well.

    The problem is all four of those guys are limited in their abilities. Darks and Sed are the closest thing we have to complete receivers and until they figure out how to be disciplined in the system we will continue to struggle.

    Really wish Houston Jones would make it back as I think he would be another one to succeed in this system.

    Like everything, it takes time, but imagine how good we can be once the concepts are grasped and we are dangerous to run or pass on each play.



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    Quote Originally Posted by cardinal&gold View Post
    I remember hearing that McCarney didn't do tackling drills/technique in practice because he thought the players should have already learned that
    Apprently your "source" never attended a McCarney practice...



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Apprently your "source" never attended a McCarney practice...
    Like I said, it was hearsay and I don't remember where it came from. It sticks out in my mind for some reason, though.



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    After reading this I'm even more concerned than I was before. If we are struggling to grasp basic football 101 passing concepts that every offense has and this has nothing to do the the new no huddle spread, I guess my next question to Herman would be what did we do all Spring and Summer? I was chalking this up to the new offense because we "seemed" to grasp the basic concepts last year.



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    Herman needs to stop blaming Arnaud and receivers and start blaming the fans.



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    Maybe some of these fans could be recruited from the stands to run the proper routes. Any volunteers?


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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    hope arnaud finds a breakout game against fatboy(fat azz) and stuffs the jay squawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO CYCLONES!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    Quote Originally Posted by cardinal&gold View Post
    I remember hearing that McCarney didn't do tackling drills/technique in practice because he thought the players should have already learned that, yet we continued to miss tackles and get run over in games.
    That's not true.



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    Quote Originally Posted by cardinal&gold View Post
    Seems like our football teams have always struggled with "basic football concepts." Why is that? I remember hearing that McCarney didn't do tackling drills/technique in practice because he thought the players should have already learned that, yet we continued to miss tackles and get run over in games. Granted, that is hearsay and is probably inadmissable. But it just seems like our guys have always had problems with basic football skills at the most inopportune times. For example, why the hell are we the only football team in the history of the sport that has struggled to run a screen pass correctly?
    We did plenty of tackling drills under McCarney. I remember about the first 25 minutes of linebacker and linebacker/DL individual time was used for tackling.

    What you may have heard was when we did team stuff in practice (non-scrimmage) we used "high and hard" instead of tackling. "High and Hard" was wrapping up the ball carrier but not taking him down. This is the way most teams practice to avoid unnecessary ankle and knee injuries in practice.



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    We're in trouble.



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    Re: Herman concerned about passing game?

    Quote Originally Posted by isufbcurt View Post
    We did plenty of tackling drills under McCarney. I remember about the first 25 minutes of linebacker and linebacker/DL individual time was used for tackling.

    What you may have heard was when we did team stuff in practice (non-scrimmage) we used "high and hard" instead of tackling. "High and Hard" was wrapping up the ball carrier but not taking him down. This is the way most teams practice to avoid unnecessary ankle and knee injuries in practice.
    Yes. High and Hard, or "thud" tempo. Used by pretty much every football team in America from peewees to preps to pros as the normal practice tempo.


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