View Poll Results: Was pouring alcohol on Nick Adenhart's jersey insensitive and offensive?

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  • Yes - they should have found a different way to remember Nick Adenhart

    5 5.88%
  • No - this is a time-honored tradition and an appropriate way for the Angels to remember him

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    Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    Apparently a lot of controversy has been stirred up about how the Los Angeles Angels celebrated winning the AL West on Monday. During the traditional celebration of pouring beer and champagne on one another, Angels players grabbed the jersey hanging on Nick Adenhart's stall and poured beer and champagne on it (for those that don't remember, Nick Adenhart was the rookie pitcher that earlier this year was killed by a drunk driver the night of/morning after winning his first MLB game). Since then, a lot of critics have come out of the woodwork claiming that the act of pouring alcohol on Adenhart's jersey was both insensitive and offensive.



    So, the question is, which do you think? Was it insensitive, or, considering the pouring of alcohol is a traditional MLB celebration, was it an appropriate way for Adenhart's teammates to remember Adenhart and include him in the celebration?


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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    Now that I have posted the question, I'll post my own opinion.

    I am not offended by this at all. As was mentioned earlier, this is how baseball celebrates. Adenhart's memory has been a part of this team the entire year, and I thought it was an honor for his teammates to include his memory in the celebration by doing what they would have done to him had he actually been present. In fact, I think the only people that have a right to be offended by this would be his family or his closest teammates. Obviously his closest teammates didn't have a problem with this, but there is no word yet of what his family thinks.

    Personally, I think that people will find any minuscule thing to get offended over, and this situation is proof of it.


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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    I see nothing wrong with it... Well, except that they call themselves the Los Angeles Angels.



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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    I'm not a big fan of alcohol, but I have no problem with their celebration. It's pretty much how these things are celebrated. I think they were looking in their own way to honor Adenhart, and so I refuse to be offended by their effort to honor their own fallen teammate.

    I guess I missed the memo where I (or the media, or critics) had to approve of their decision on their own celebration. (which is not a criticism of the poll, but of the critics that even made it a discussion.)


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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    Here is my problem...people don't think about the whole story when criticizing these types of actions. The Angels organization has been nothing but classy in the way that they have handled themselves through this season with respect to Nick.

    They are sad that he is gone and are trying to still remember him when they could easily just neglect his memory to celebrate what they were able to accomplish. I would almost guarantee that the Adenhart family will be receiving a playoff share from the team and I would assume that the team will continue to remember him for years to come. It probably doesn't matter what the team would've done, they probably would get called out by the media because that is what the media does. They sit around and find reasons to create drama.

    So me, I don't care. I think that it is great that they have continued to keep his memory alive, when they could've easily just forgotten about him.


    But seriously, what kind of name is Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim...who are they trying to fool.



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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    Also, isn't the guy who is holding the jersey the same pitcher who would stop and pay tribute to adenhart each time he took the field??



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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    I have no problem with it at all, a time honored tradition and in this case a way of showing respect to a fallen teammate. I don't think you can expect the players to think of the implications of this...they were celebrating the way any team that wins something significant does, and decided to include their teammate in the celebration.

    I am with CycloneErik, when I first heard this was an issue all I could think is this is just another situation blown out of control by the media. They take a seemingly innocent act and try and spin it into a controversy. This is further proof that ESPN does not need 4 different afternoon shows (Pardon hte Interruption, Around the Horn, Rome is Burning, Sports Nation) dedicated to drumming up the same non-issues in sports.

    If the Angels go out, get drunk and drive home then let me know about it if you want me to be outraged. Until then, leave them alone.



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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    Honestly, I think I would have criticized them a little if they DIDN'T include him, considering how the players have remembered the guy over the season. Including his jersey in the celebration is their way of including him/his memory in the celebration.


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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    I couldn't care less and way too much is being made of this. I see how some could think it's a bit inappropriate and I'd understand that. But, IMO, it's not a story, this world is far too P/C and people are way too easily offended.



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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    On mike and mike they asked what if he was killed by some one texting and driving. Then what? No celebratory calls or texts?



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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    I think it was perfectly fine.

    Deace was on his high horse this morning saying that people not caring about this or who think its overblown are what's wrong with the world today. He was saying how irresponsible it was to have all of that alcohol in the clubhouse for 40 guys.

    I'd say that HE is what's wrong with the world today....there are too many people trying to jam their beliefs down everyone's throat. You make your own choices and let other people make theirs.



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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    IIRC, his family was touched by it.

    I think it's pretty cool, actually, showing he's still not forgotten.



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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    I think it was perfectly fine.

    Deace was on his high horse this morning saying that people not caring about this or who think its overblown are what's wrong with the world today. He was saying how irresponsible it was to have all of that alcohol in the clubhouse for 40 guys.

    I'd say that HE is what's wrong with the world today....there are too many people trying to jam their beliefs down everyone's throat. You make your own choices and let other people make theirs.
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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    People need to shut up.

    If there were a body in that jersey - it'd be doing the same thing.



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    Re: Los Angeles Angels Celebration

    Another way to look at it is 'what would Nick have thought of it'?
    From everything I've read about the guy(and heard through a mutual acquaintance)...lends me to believe that Nick would have loved it.
    I'm sure his teammates and family know that as well.


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