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    Regarding the "three players"

    Can anyone explain to me how this case would be any different than Adrian Clayborn's at Iowa?

    Clayborn supposedly assaulted a taxi driver, but he's playing all season until his court date comes in January.

    Could the same situation be the case with our 3 players?



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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    It could be a case of due process, where the university is taking that stance that you are Innocent until proven guilty, so we can not punish you until it is proven that something actually happened. The real issue I see with comparing these two situations is a guy that beats up cab drivers looks to be a little bit more of a menace to society than 3 guys allegedly smoking pot.

    I know that DMac alway suspended player right away under the pretense that the players used bad judgment by getting themselves into situations that could embarrass the university. Maybe this was a violation of the players rights.



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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Can anyone explain to me how this case would be any different than Adrian Clayborn's at Iowa?

    Clayborn supposedly assaulted a taxi driver, but he's playing all season until his court date comes in January.

    Could the same situation be the case with our 3 players?
    The difference is that Ferenntz is accused of being unethical and winning at all costs by some on this board because of examples like Clayborn, and now we have our three, and our coach is 'doing what is best for the players and the team'......


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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Some woman reports seeing "some guys" smoking something suspicious outside. The 3 men in question deny that this was them. A search of their residence is conducted and a jar with "residue" is found along with a few seeds. The 3 men test clean.

    Did the guys do something they weren't supposed to be doing? It's very possible, maybe even likely. But there's not a lot there to hang your hat on if you're a prosecutor.

    That seems a lot different than the situation at Iowa.



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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Quote Originally Posted by CyPride View Post
    The difference is that Ferenntz is accused of being unethical and winning at all costs by some on this board because of examples like Clayborn, and now we have our three, and our coach is 'doing what is best for the players and the team'......
    Who said any of them would play?



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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Quote Originally Posted by CyPride View Post
    The difference is that Ferenntz is accused of being unethical and winning at all costs by some on this board because of examples like Clayborn, and now we have our three, and our coach is 'doing what is best for the players and the team'......
    You left out irresponsible.

    In view of the public statements and actions or lack thereof on the part of an AD, a University President and 2 coaches of 2 different sports at Iowa dating back to the PP disaster, it is clear that KF is conforming to a pattern of behavior engaged in by the university's administration. It also seems clear to this observer that this behavior is NOT wholly in the interest of the players.

    When we get a couple dozen arrests and our coach is barking at the press that "this is not a big deal. You are making this big deal.", and our AD is saying "boys will be boys". Then we can talk moral equivalency.



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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    I wish people would stop bring Iowa into this.


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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    This couldnt have gone in the other 26 threads about them?



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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Well good new though that we have them back and can play against Army!!!

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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Why would they have the seeds in their apartment if it wasnt theirs. I still think they should be suspend for at least a game.



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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Coach Rhoads needs to do what is right.

    Without having all the info it is tough to speculate. With the info I have now, I would suspend them 2 or 3 games.



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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    Coach Rhoads needs to do what is right.

    Without having all the info it is tough to speculate. With the info I have now, I would suspend them 2 or 3 games.
    Exactly he needs to set an example to show the other players that this cant be tolerated!



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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    I wish people would stop bring Iowa into this.
    most users on this board is living or is from iowa......


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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    Coach Rhoads needs to do what is right.

    Without having all the info it is tough to speculate. With the info I have now, I would suspend them 2 or 3 games.

    2 or 3 games!!! I think your high right now. THEY TESTED CLEAN if im not mistaken. I could see them out for a game and agree with it but 2 or 3....I thought we wanted to go to a bowl game. Getn busted for testing clean isnt worthy of 3 games. Put your pipe down and go to an intervention.

    I remember when I was in school during the mac era and watching our starting QB at the time come strolling into a party on welch with a not so black & mild in hand followed by his entourage of buddies. COLLEGE KIDS will COLLEGE KIDS. 1 game tops for being stupid and keeping the empty jar.



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    Re: Regarding the "three players"

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Who said any of them would play?
    You think they won't be playing in the next game, if they typically played?

    And they did play in the iowa and kent state game, no?


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