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    Recruiting on Defense

    I know our defense only gave up 14 points last night, but that was a pretty bad Kent State team.

    I hope that PR & staff are hitting the JUCO's hard. We have 8 starters graduating on that unit & need some immediate help. IMO Rhoads needs a complete upgrade of the 2 deeps on the D-line. I would bring in 3 JUCO DT's & 3 JUCO DE's. I would also sign a HS player at each DL position. Ten d-line recruits might seem extreme, the only DL underclassmen I thought showed any potential last night was Laing.

    I had hopes for guys like Johnson, Alburtis and Black - but if the former 2 can't get up to 290lbs, I just don't think they can help. Same goes for Maggitt- he needs to be able to get up to around 255lbs. IMO our DL needs to go at least 275, 300, 290 and 255 across the front.



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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    Maggitt will be solid. The rest I'm not sold on. We need MAJOR improvement and I'm not sure it's coming.



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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    Kent State only score 7 when the game mattered.



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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by isucy86 View Post
    I know our defense only gave up 14 points last night, but that was a pretty bad Kent State team.

    I hope that PR & staff are hitting the JUCO's hard. We have 8 starters graduating on that unit & need some immediate help. IMO Rhoads needs a complete upgrade of the 2 deeps on the D-line. I would bring in 3 JUCO DT's & 3 JUCO DE's. I would also sign a HS player at each DL position. Ten d-line recruits might seem extreme, the only DL underclassmen I thought showed any potential last night was Laing.

    I had hopes for guys like Johnson, Alburtis and Black - but if the former 2 can't get up to 290lbs, I just don't think they can help. Same goes for Maggitt- he needs to be able to get up to around 255lbs. IMO our DL needs to go at least 275, 300, 290 and 255 across the front.
    Bringing in Tuba turned out great. Chris Lyle was a 3 year guy who is making an impact this year after not doing much in his 1st two seasons. Other than that, most of the Juco DL recruits have been busts. I'd still try to bring in a couple and hope you get lucky, but plan on the guys already here to get most of the playing time.



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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    I hope there is an OL or two that can make the switch to DL. I can't believe there was not one DL recruit in the last class. Without a decent DL there is no way this defense can be average.



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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    I hear what ur saying but this is the first year in this system for the young players but I don't know if they will come through in years to come but juco's can really be a crap shoot. And they're gone in 2 yrs I would recruit equal amount from both H.S. / juco. Or we will always be on the juco train not a recipe for long term success (exception k-state 90's) as for their weight look at Iowa they always have lighter interior DL and good ones too.


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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    The best reason I can think of for our lack of recruiting/developing interior linemen, is that we are in the process of changing to a 2-5-4 defense...



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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    I'd like to see 8 JC kids in the front 7 recruited. Usually I'm not a big JC guy but we need guys ready to play in those units.




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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    I think we need to set a good base for defensive linemen. If we are going to recruit juco linemen then we should look to get two highschoolers for each one brought here IMHO.



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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by isucy86 View Post
    We have 8 starters graduating...
    That might not be a bad thing..



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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by DJK15 View Post
    That might not be a bad thing..
    I always hate it when people say things like this--it implies that the guys who aren't starting are somehow magically better...




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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by DJK15 View Post
    That might not be a bad thing..
    so when are you going to change your name on here so i can skim past those comments too?



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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    I took a look at the stats from last nights game. Was unable to see any of it since I was in St. Louis. The stats do not seem to reflect our impressive victory. I was a little shocked and worried. On paper it looks like a game where we had a large amount of opprotunities to blow this game out and failed. Is this true? Can anyone comment on this who saw or listened to the game last night? I would appreciate it



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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by ilovetheclones View Post
    so when are you going to change your name on here so i can skim past those comments too?
    That's called the "ignore" option...

    i know that we need help, but the OP's numbers are ludicrous--would devastate us when that many DL completed their eligibility at the same time. Two juco ends, maybe a tackle, and complement with high school kids who can contribute right away would lead to a more balanced class.




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    Re: Recruiting on Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by BEACHBUM View Post
    I took a look at the stats from last nights game. Was unable to see any of it since I was in St. Louis. The stats do not seem to reflect our impressive victory. I was a little shocked and worried. On paper it looks like a game where we had a large amount of opprotunities to blow this game out and failed. Is this true? Can anyone comment on this who saw or listened to the game last night? I would appreciate it
    No reason to hijack the thread...

    http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/...me-thread.html

    BTW--we DID blow out the game...they got a weak late TD, and 34-14 STILL was a blowout. Don't worry about anything.




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