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    Schwartz is a fumbler

    This guy has maybe a dozen carries this season with 2 lost fumbles, not good. I wouldn't be surprised to see Blankenship at #2 now.


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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    where is bo williams? just not good enough?




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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Quote Originally Posted by kgreeny View Post
    where is bo williams? just not good enough?
    I guess not.


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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Bo would be #2 if Chiz was still here....pretty much guarantee it. I'm one that isn't in on the love fest for Schwatz. He seems slow to me and I just don't see him as an everydown back.



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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    Bo would be #2 if Chiz was still here....pretty much guarantee it. I'm one that isn't in on the love fest for Schwatz. He seems slow to me and I just don't see him as an everydown back.
    In the spread, probably not. In a power game or at the goalline, he isn't a burden to have He is not a world class speedster, but how often do you see one guy take him down alone?



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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    Bo would be #2 if Chiz was still here....pretty much guarantee it. I'm one that isn't in on the love fest for Schwatz. He seems slow to me and I just don't see him as an everydown back.
    Agreed. I don't dislike Schwarz but I would like to see some better things out him before calling him a solid backup right now.



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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    In the spread, probably not. In a power game or at the goalline, he isn't a burden to have He is not a world class speedster, but how often do you see one guy take him down alone?
    Honestly, he hasn't looked any more difficult to tackle than ARob to me. He may have a knack for putting the ball on the ground as well like the OP says. I'm not giving up on him, just not convinced just yet. I do think Bo should be playing ahead of him at this point based on what I've seen of him. ARob is the clear #1. After that, take your pick.



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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    This brings up a good point about the complaints people have with the number of turn overs from last night. A couple of them were from the 2nd string. Not saying it's an excuse but in a closer game I don't see those guys being in there.

    More to work on, sure. But great win last night.



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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Are the two early fumbles a problem? Yes, but I think it's a little early for you to sit there anonymously behind your keyboard and label him a "fumbler" only three games into his collegiate career.

    The replay shows he took a great helmet hit to the ball and it squirted out, just like it does to so many other running backs to take the same kind of hit. The TV also showed how dejected he was when he went to the sidelines. You can be assured that he will be devoting all of his attention to ball security in the future and I hope he earns the right to keep getting carries.

    I'm just amazed at how quickly people write players and teams off after only a few games.



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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUKyro View Post
    This brings up a good point about the complaints people have with the number of turn overs from last night. A couple of them were from the 2nd string. Not saying it's an excuse but in a closer game I don't see those guys being in there.

    More to work on, sure. But great win last night.
    Last night we had 1 Int and 5 fumbles. We were fortunate and only lost 3 of those fumbles. In 3 games we have turned the ball over 12 times. 6 Ints and 6 fumbles lost. I think 3 games is a trend. This is the Number One stat standing between us Cyclones and a good season.



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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Its pretty clear we have AROB and a huge drop off after that.

    I was hoping that Bo Williams would have at least been servicable in a 34-14 blow out. Damn you internet sensations!



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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonestate View Post
    Are the two early fumbles a problem? Yes, but I think it's a little early for you to sit there anonymously behind your keyboard and label him a "fumbler" only three games into his collegiate career.

    The replay shows he took a great helmet hit to the ball and it squirted out, just like it does to so many other running backs to take the same kind of hit. The TV also showed how dejected he was when he went to the sidelines. You can be assured that he will be devoting all of his attention to ball security in the future and I hope he earns the right to keep getting carries.

    I'm just amazed at how quickly people write players and teams off after only a few games.
    I'm not trying to write him off but his carry/fumble ratio this year is not good.


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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    I don't think it's very meaningful to look at fumble/#carries ratios when he only has 12 carries. With such a small sample size it's almost impossible to know if the two fumbles indicate any sort of pattern at all. However, CPR & Staff have seen all the RBs run hundreds of times in practice and given the number of carries each back gets in practice the staff has a lot more information to go on and obviously they feel confident enough in Schwartz's ability to hold on to the ball to make him the #2 right now. Granted, gameday carries are more important, but with only 12 carries I don't think any sort of judgement can realistically be made. Something to watch for and put emphasis on in practice, probably; Something to base future performance on, probably not.



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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    In the spread, probably not. In a power game or at the goalline, he isn't a burden to have He is not a world class speedster, but how often do you see one guy take him down alone?
    Yes, but when you're slow, it's easier for more than one guy to catch up with you.




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    Re: Schwartz is a fumbler

    Many statisticians have looked at fumbles, and there are multiple papers that indicate that fumbles are random events. Good teams fumble the ball just as much as bad ones. Fumbles actually don't increase when the defense it trying to strip it either. Fumbles happen because the ballcarrier is randomly impacted at just the right angle to jar it loose. As said earlier, coaches probably wouldn't play him if he couldn't hold on to it in practice. Just bad luck in the games. If it's any consolation, Schwartz and the rest of the Cyclones are probably significantly less likely to fumble the rest of the season from a statistical standpoint. Unfortunately INTs are a different matter.


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