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    Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    I don't see the Big 12 going to a stand alone TV channel like what the Big 10 Network did, but something needs to be done when the contract with FSN expires.

    One one hand, the Big 12 footprint just isn't big enough like the Big 10's footprint is to support a stand alone network, yet on the other, The Mountain West Conference probably has an even smaller footprint than the Big 12 and they have their own stand alone network.

    Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint - STLtoday.com

    Prior to this season, the Southeastern Conference signed a deal, for 15 years and $2.25 billion, with ESPN to air some of its games and syndicate others. (The league also has a 15-year, $825 million deal with CBS.) This weekend, eight of nine SEC games will be televised, and ESPN has arranged for its syndicated games to air in markets far outside the SEC's home base, including Dallas, the Big 12's backyard.

    "Kids want to be on TV," Texas coach Mack Brown said earlier this season. A big TV contract "is very important" to the league.

    But the decision is in the future. The Big 12 has two TV deals, with ABC/ESPN through 2015-16 and Fox Sports Net through 2011-12. Until the FSN deal ends, the league's hands are tied. Its new TV negotiations won't begin until April 2011. It has from now until then to figure out what the best step is, and that question is very unclear.

    The SEC didn't have to start its own network because it got that kind of a deal with ESPN, and that may crowd out the possibility for another deal of that kind for anyone else, because the network has limited shelf space. ESPN will air four SEC games this weekend, spread among ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNU, and syndicate a fifth. With the existing deals ESPN has in place, giving that kind of wall-to-wall coverage to another league and the Big 12 would be a prime candidate, considering the power of its football programs may not be possible.



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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    [QUOTE=garn91;1248666]I don't see the Big 12 going to a stand alone TV channel like what the Big 10 Network did, but something needs to be done when the contract with FSN expires.

    Why not? The B12 has the Denver, KC+StL, OKC+Tulsa, Dallas and Houston markets. We need a B12 Network. As you mention if the MW can do it, the B12 can.


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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    Get a Network Big 12. Now.



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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    I think an ACC-Big 12-PAC 10 network would be sweet, but it would have its cons. Think about it, have ACC games at 10 AM and 12 PM central, Big 12 at 2 PM and 4 PM central, Pac 10 at 7 and 9 PM central. This of course would be your tier 2 games (like ISU vs. MU type games). Your UT-OU type games would be on ESPN/ABC in the usual time slot. On the new network you would get continuous games overlapping each other, kinda like watching March Madness, you would only need 1-2 alternate channels, like B10 has on Saturdays.



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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    Quote Originally Posted by ia8manfan View Post
    I think an ACC-Big 12-PAC 10 network would be sweet, but it would have its cons. Think about it, have ACC games at 10 AM and 12 PM central, Big 12 at 2 PM and 4 PM central, Pac 10 at 7 and 9 PM central. This of course would be your tier 2 games (like ISU vs. MU type games). Your UT-OU type games would be on ESPN/ABC in the usual time slot. On the new network you would get continuous games overlapping each other, kinda like watching March Madness, you would only need 1-2 alternate channels, like B10 has on Saturdays.
    I mentioned a Pac-10/Big 12 collaboration here some time ago (even emailed the idea to ADJP at the prompting of CF'ers).

    I think three conferences might be too much. The two-hour (for the most part) time difference between Big 12 and Pac-10 makes that pretty workable. As there is only one hour time difference between ACC and Big 12, there might be too much overlap. Actually, ACC/Pac-10 would probably be ideal, but that doesn't help the Big 12.


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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    Quote Originally Posted by ia8manfan View Post
    I think an ACC-Big 12-PAC 10 network would be sweet, but it would have its cons. Think about it, have ACC games at 10 AM and 12 PM central, Big 12 at 2 PM and 4 PM central, Pac 10 at 7 and 9 PM central. This of course would be your tier 2 games (like ISU vs. MU type games). Your UT-OU type games would be on ESPN/ABC in the usual time slot. On the new network you would get continuous games overlapping each other, kinda like watching March Madness, you would only need 1-2 alternate channels, like B10 has on Saturdays.
    A combo network between conferences would almost have to have "spill over channels", much like what the Big 10 Network has.



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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    I like the Big 12-Pac 10 network idea. That would bring in other huge markets and plus it would likely be just a better network since there would be more schools to cover. That sounds like a workable plan.




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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    I wonder what NBC's contract with ND is like. Do ND fans still tune in enough to make it worth it?


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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    Quote Originally Posted by ia8manfan View Post
    I think an ACC-Big 12-PAC 10 network would be sweet, but it would have its cons. Think about it, have ACC games at 10 AM and 12 PM central, Big 12 at 2 PM and 4 PM central, Pac 10 at 7 and 9 PM central. This of course would be your tier 2 games (like ISU vs. MU type games). Your UT-OU type games would be on ESPN/ABC in the usual time slot. On the new network you would get continuous games overlapping each other, kinda like watching March Madness, you would only need 1-2 alternate channels, like B10 has on Saturdays.
    Not sure about including the ACC (that might be a little much), but the Pac10/Big12 would be a cool combination. We already have a ongoing hardwood series between these conferences and let's face it, the Pac10 and Big12 are really the only BCS conferences west of the Mississippi. Think about the increased exposure for recruiting in California this would create.



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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    As much as I hate listening to the people announce a game on the Big 10 network the Big 12 needs the same (horrible announcers and everything...I don't care).



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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    i hope this gets done, I honestly would love to watch all the Big 12 sports, not just football



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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    I still have little faith any of this will happen. My guess is we sign another crappy contract with FSN and spice it up with some more VS. games.



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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    Metro area populations in the Big 12 region (2008 numbers):

    Dallas/Ft Worth/Arlington (#4) - 9.6 million people

    Houston/Sugar Land/Baytown (#6) - 5.7 million

    St. Louis (#18) - 2.8 million

    Denver/Aurora (#21) - 2.5 million

    San Antonio (#28) - 2.0 million

    Kansas City (#29) - 2.0 million

    Austin/Round Rock (#36) - 1.6 million

    Oklahoma City (#44) - 1.2 million

    Tulsa (#53) - 0.9 million

    Omaha (#60) - 0.8 million

    I'd say there's plenty of TV sets in those areas to justify a Big 12 network.



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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    I think just leaving it the way it is and rewriting the contract is what needs to be done.

    Currently we have the following networks/Channels that have a certian order and number of games per season they can show.

    Big 12 Conference Broadcast Schedule NOTE: This list includes telecasts that fall under the TV contracts for the Big 12. Any road non-conference games fall under the home team's telecast rights.
    The Big 12 has a network TV contract with ABC. The conference also contracts with FSN for national cable telecasts and what would be considered regional telecasts. FSN also produces many PPV telecasts for the conference. ABC has rights to telecast up to 19 Big 12 games on ABC, including the conference championship game. FSN has the rights to 20-25 Big 12 games and has sublicensed seven games to ESPN/ESPN2 and five games to Versus.
    In order of preference, ABC gets first choice and can select multiple games on a given weekend. The next selection belongs to the combination of ESPN/ESPN2, FSN and Versus for a national cable game in primetime. The third set of choices belongs to either FSN or Versus and televised early in the afternoon. Fox College Sports can choose games after that and games can be aired on PPV.


    The main problem with our contract is that the won't allow competing games to air at the same time.

    Every Big12 Team should be on TV. Its rediculus that a contract keeps this from happening. They have the networks to do it, but they have to let a few games play at the same time (AKA Big 10 Network)
    Our best shot at TV is when ABC picks up 2 games on Saturday. Then it moves us up to Versus, FSN or FCS.

    And stop with the Internet streaming crap. If you have a crew broadcasting the game, then put it on TV. Not just the internet so I can have it buffer 50 times in crappy resolution. Lame.



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    Re: Big 12 takes aim at increasing its TV footprint

    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaCy View Post
    Metro area populations in the Big 12 region (2008 numbers):

    Dallas/Ft Worth/Arlington (#4) - 9.6 million people

    Houston/Sugar Land/Baytown (#6) - 5.7 million

    St. Louis (#18) - 2.8 million

    Denver/Aurora (#21) - 2.5 million

    San Antonio (#28) - 2.0 million

    Kansas City (#29) - 2.0 million

    Austin/Round Rock (#36) - 1.6 million

    Oklahoma City (#44) - 1.2 million

    Tulsa (#53) - 0.9 million

    Omaha (#60) - 0.8 million

    I'd say there's plenty of TV sets in those areas to justify a Big 12 network.

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