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    Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    And we kept him for 10 seasons..... why?

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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    What is the logic behind that one?



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    I was watching the game next to a guy that brought this up in the second half. He said, "well, we could always go back to the clay stapelton years and punt on third down."

    Coach Stapelton was honored at half-time because he was coach of the 'Dirty Thirty' team that played for an Orange Bowl berth in 1959. Somewhere on cyclones.com there is a free video tribute to that team.



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    His career coaching record at Iowa state was 42 wins, 53 losses, and 4 ties. This ranks him second at Iowa state in total wins

    Sighhh.



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    The only reference in that article merely confirms the dates he coached at ISU. I would take everthing else with a grain of salt.



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    That is showing a lot of confidence in your team. Just saying oh screw it. We are not going to make it. PUnt the damn thing.



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    JD720 my dad spoke of this often. It's actually true.



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    Haden Fry did it more than once IIRC.



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    JD720 my dad spoke of this often. It's actually true.
    Fair enough...Do you know the reasoning? Was it common or something done in certain circumstances?



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Haden Fry did it more than once IIRC.
    Hayden's excuse would be he was drunk off his *** and lost track of what was happening during the game


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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    I hear it was to supprise the other team when it was like 3rd and fifteen.



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    Quote Originally Posted by Haverhill View Post
    What is the logic behind that one?
    It's usually disguised as a pass or run play. If it is third and forever, you might quick-kick to catch the defense off-guard, and hope to get a good roll on the punt to gain a field position advantage. That's the only time I've seen it done. If field or weather conditions are bad, or you don't have a good punter, I guess it could work out...


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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    I think they're talking about a 'quick kick.' They would line up like they're running a normal play and then have a back punt it.

    I doubt the passing game back then was a big part of the offense so if they had a 3rd and 15 or 20, they would get the field position back by kicking it and letting it roll. Obviously the defense isn't expecting it so the ball would roll forever if you kick it right.

    West Bend-Mallard did this back in the day and they were a pretty good team.



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    If he was "notorious" for it, would it really be that big of a suprise, and therefore be effective? Maybe his plan was to back the safeties up a bit on 3rd and long?



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    Re: Wow... We had a coach that would occasionally punt the ball on 3rd down..

    If he was "notorious" for it, would it really be that big of a suprise, and therefore be effective? Maybe his plan was to back the safeties up a bit on 3rd and long?
    Listen man I am not arguing for it. I just said he did it a lot. I would never be one to defend punting on 3rd down. Hayden Fry did it sometimes when he was backed up to the goal line and he had 3 and 20 or so. Teams actually would just rush the pass/kicker and try and block it. Then let it role.



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