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    Keys for Kent State...

    What does everyone see as the keys for Kent State?

    I think a big one is the coaching staff understanding what is working for us and what isn't. It seems pretty clear to me that AA (and Tiller) doesn't have a full grasp of what Herman is trying to do. This shouldn't be a huge surprise, because as other's have posted, it took Chase Clement about 4 games to figure out what the hell was going. What that means to me in the mean time, is we need to stick w/our running game, and take some of the load off Arnaud's shoulders. We need to run screens, and slant routes to build his confidence back up. It's obvious he's trying to make something that isn't there, and that's killing us. It seemed the coaching staff panicked a little bit, and gave up on trying to run way to soon.

    Defensively, we need to keep doing alot of what we're doing. They didn't start getting destroyed until they were spending all day on that field. Again, if we're running the ball more, and throwing shorter, higher % patterns, we're going to control the clock and keep them fresh. The defense gave our offense plenty of chances to stay in and possibly win this game, but they were squandered constantly. Usually for us, it's the other way around.

    I think this game will tell us a lot about both our players and coaching staff. Iowa obviously bounced back strong from a poor showing last week. Can we do the same?


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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    Agreed. I have been pleased with the Defense so far this year. You can't expect a group with little to no depth to spend that much time on the field and perform well. I think ISU has to run deeper routes and actually spread the field. Seemed like we ran alot of slant routes against Iowa.



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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    I don't know that they gave up on the run, we ran the ball 34 times all together. I don't think you can expect A-Rob to carry the ball 30 times a game, I don't think he's built for that.

    Biggest thing is to make the other team beat you, we don't need to be helping them with turnovers and penalties.

    With as strong of a running game as we've had I'd like to see us try to spread the field more with play action, but it's hard when AA is throwing the ball into traffic so often.



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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    What does everyone see as the keys for Kent State?

    I think a big one is the coaching staff understanding what is working for us and what isn't. It seems pretty clear to me that AA (and Tiller) doesn't have a full grasp of what Herman is trying to do. This shouldn't be a huge surprise, because as other's have posted, it took Chase Clement about 4 games to figure out what the hell was going. What that means to me in the mean time, is we need to stick w/our running game, and take some of the load off Arnaud's shoulders. We need to run screens, and slant routes to build his confidence back up. It's obvious he's trying to make something that isn't there, and that's killing us. It seemed the coaching staff panicked a little bit, and gave up on trying to run way to soon.

    Defensively, we need to keep doing alot of what we're doing. They didn't start getting destroyed until they were spending all day on that field. Again, if we're running the ball more, and throwing shorter, higher % patterns, we're going to control the clock and keep them fresh. The defense gave our offense plenty of chances to stay in and possibly win this game, but they were squandered constantly. Usually for us, it's the other way around.

    I think this game will tell us a lot about both our players and coaching staff. Iowa obviously bounced back strong from a poor showing last week. Can we do the same?

    I would give A-Rob/Schwartz 30-35 carries and make Kent St stop the run. The game will flow much better for AA and will make the throwing opportunites more available.

    AA doesn't seem to the have patience to roll with what the D gives up....yet. So better to stick with what we know (running) vs trying to establish what we don't know (yet) with the passing attack.

    It will come...give it some time.


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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    We need to show up right off the bat and play well all 4 quarters. We can't do what we did at UNLV last year.



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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    They also lost that dual threat QB that tore us a new one 2 years ago. Now if we can stop....Jasper (?)....we'll be set.


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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    Quote Originally Posted by arganbright2 View Post
    Agreed. I have been pleased with the Defense so far this year. You can't expect a group with little to no depth to spend that much time on the field and perform well. I think ISU has to run deeper routes and actually spread the field. Seemed like we ran alot of slant routes against Iowa.

    It seemed to me (and I'd have to watch the replay) that alot of the picks were coming off of 10-15 yard routes. I'm talking about 5-10 yard plays. Just some simple, higher % type stuff to help AA build his confidence back up, and allow him to get more comfortable. I think there is a clear correlation between his increased lock downs on primary receivers and not being very comfortable with this system.

    Quote Originally Posted by larrysarmy
    I would give A-Rob/Schwartz 30-35 carries and make Kent St stop the run. The game will flow much better for AA and will make the throwing opportunites more available.
    I like Arnaud's running as well, I wouldn't mind seeing him get 15 carries or so himself.


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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    Tackle Jarvis.




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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    Run the football more.



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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    penalties.. limit penalties.. penalties killed us during that game just as much as the t/os did..
    keep things simple on offense.. on defense contain contain contain....
    spc teams.. do what u do..


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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    Quote Originally Posted by khaal53 View Post
    Tackle Jarvis.

    That is the Key...stop Jarvis, stop Kent. BC held him under 70 yards and beat KS by 3td's.

    The Flashes new QB is not doing so hot the first 2 games. Make him beat you. If Jarvis is carving us up like 07...gonna be a long night.

    Man that sounds bad to say about might Mac Kent State....


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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    We need to make our passes and have the QB take charge of the team. That means, making the reads,and it's not there, run with the ball. Handing the ball off will not win games for Iowa State, passing is critical. The balls that are thrown have to be on target.



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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    Good observations from everybody,
    Small steps forward are all I'm asking for win or lose.
    We went 5-19 not 19-5, with a lot of close games but still, our players and staff will need to figure out how to win again, and they will.

    My guess, we win on a late drive.



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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    Quote Originally Posted by khaal53 View Post
    Tackle Jarvis.
    I would love some more discussion of Kent St because I really don't know much about them but...this pretty much could end the thread here. Just gotta tackle Jarvis.



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    Re: Keys for Kent State...

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    It seemed to me (and I'd have to watch the replay) that alot of the picks were coming off of 10-15 yard routes. I'm talking about 5-10 yard plays. Just some simple, higher % type stuff to help AA build his confidence back up, and allow him to get more comfortable. I think there is a clear correlation between his increased lock downs on primary receivers and not being very comfortable with this system.
    I was only able to watch the replay of the 1st quarter yesterday before I started getting sick again. However, this is mostly right about what we were running.

    Arnaud forced balls over the middle on 10 yard crossing patterns where Iowa had all of their linebackers sitting. It was horrible to be honest. He needed to do what Bret did in 2007 and go underneath and check down when he could. Make Iowa creep to the line.

    The worst interception in my mind was the one at the end of the 1st half where we had started to roll in our offense more. That was a pick on a 30 yard deep route that he had no business throwing. Past that it was forcing balls to guys who were not in the soft spots of zones.

    Go through your progressions Austen and you will be surprised what you find.



    I like Arnaud's running as well, I wouldn't mind seeing him get 15 carries or so himself.
    Agreed. We could easily have a 45 carry game between A-Rob, Schwartz and Austen. 25-10-10 does not seem too extreme at all.



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