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    Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    What do they even have to do? And it wont suprise me if they go another 10.

    Chicago Cubs vs. Pittsburgh Pirates - Recap - September 07, 2009 - ESPN


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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    You start to buy out players..like the Yankees


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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    if your a pirates fan I feel bad for you because it could easily be another decade or so the way this team is headed



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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    I don't see how anyone is still a Pirates fan.


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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by CYCRAZY View Post
    if your a pirates fan I feel bad for you because it could easily be another decade or so the way this team is headed

    Indians fan man. Not saying much but have done a lot more in the past 17 years than the Pirates lol. I'm just saying..being a Pirates fan has got to suck.



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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    If they'd hold onto players once in awhile, they'd be competitive. Nady, Bay, and what's his face they shipped to the Braves would've been a very solid outfield this season but they'd rather ship them all off before they have to pay 'em.



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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by CYCRAZY View Post
    if your a pirates fan I feel bad for you because it could easily be another decade or so the way this team is headed
    I think the team is FINALLY headed in the right direction. You basically have to choose if you want to develop players or go about building your team through free agency. For years, the Pirates did neither, they signed economical draft pics and made trades for guys to just fill spots (anybody remember Bobby Hill?). They have finally started to build a pretty solid farm system and got rid of nothing more than role players to do it. Combine that with a strong draft and the Bucs should have a Top 5 farm system next year.

    Next year, if they aren't in contention at the break, they will HAVE to start trading some more pieces (Duke, Doumit), if they are in it at the break, I really think you will see them use some of their pieces to go out and get some help...



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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    If they'd hold onto players once in awhile, they'd be competitive. Nady, Bay, and what's his face they shipped to the Braves would've been a very solid outfield this season but they'd rather ship them all off before they have to pay 'em.

    They got two of their best players for Nady, what has he done since? McClouth probably would be the fourth outfielder on the team right now.



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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    I think the team is FINALLY headed in the right direction. You basically have to choose if you want to develop players or go about building your team through free agency. For years, the Pirates did neither, they signed economical draft pics and made trades for guys to just fill spots (anybody remember Bobby Hill?). They have finally started to build a pretty solid farm system and got rid of nothing more than role players to do it. Combine that with a strong draft and the Bucs should have a Top 5 farm system next year.

    Next year, if they aren't in contention at the break, they will HAVE to start trading some more pieces (Duke, Doumit), if they are in it at the break, I really think you will see them use some of their pieces to go out and get some help...
    I remember Bobby Hill...what ever happen to him


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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones21 View Post
    I remember Bobby Hill...what ever happen to him
    He was terrible and somehow the Cubs convinced the former GM that he was a 'centerpiece' for the Aramis trade.



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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    He was terrible and somehow the Cubs convinced the former GM that he was a 'centerpiece' for the Aramis trade.
    That trade was one of the biggest fleecings I can remember in MLB trades.

    If ownership would either hold on to players or buy a couple of big time free agents, they would be on the right track. Even if they're not winning divisions and going to the playoffs right away, they would have the support of the fans there if they get some big names in town. It seems like their ownership is just content to sit there and cash the checks from ticket sales and concessions rather than be proactively building a team.



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    Re: Pirates: 17 Straight Losing Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002 View Post
    That trade was one of the biggest fleecings I can remember in MLB trades.

    If ownership would either hold on to players or buy a couple of big time free agents, they would be on the right track. Even if they're not winning divisions and going to the playoffs right away, they would have the support of the fans there if they get some big names in town. It seems like their ownership is just content to sit there and cash the checks from ticket sales and concessions rather than be proactively building a team.

    Bay is the ONLY 'big time' player they have had since A-Ram. It's not like they are trading away stars...



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