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    Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    After watching a plethora of college football this weekend I came to the realization that we may run fewer RB screen plays than anyone in the country.

    With a shifty RB with great hands why is this the case?

    I realize we run a lot of WR slip screens that kind of do the same thing, but are there other reasons?


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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    We have played one game. We probably ran 5% of our playbook against NDSU. I'm guessing we will see a lot of screen passes this year, especially WR screens.



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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Because we have a great habit of them not working it seems. When I can't remember more than one good screen pass a year.




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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    After watching a plethora of college football this weekend I came to the realization that we may run fewer RB screen plays than anyone in the country.

    With a shifty RB with great hands why is this the case?

    I realize we run a lot of WR slip screens that kind of do the same thing, but are there other reasons?
    During the telecast they said that screens are a big part of this offense and were worked on A LOT this year.


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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Quote Originally Posted by acrozier22 View Post
    We have played one game. We probably ran 5% of our playbook against NDSU. I'm guessing we will see a lot of screen passes this year, especially WR screens.
    I was talking more over the past 10-15 years.... Hopefully Herman can successfully implement it this year. I agree with Bryce that it really has never worked for us.... it isn't a very complicated play. ESPECIALLY, when most of the time the entire defensive line is in our backfield anyway.


    Now that MBB is back, do we still have to pretend that WBB matters?

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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Quote Originally Posted by acrozier22 View Post
    We have played one game. We probably ran 5% of our playbook against NDSU. I'm guessing we will see a lot of screen passes this year, especially WR screens.

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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    After watching a plethora of college football this weekend I came to the realization that we may run fewer RB screen plays than anyone in the country.

    With a shifty RB with great hands why is this the case?

    I realize we run a lot of WR slip screens that kind of do the same thing, but are there other reasons?
    I can't explain why Mac could never incorporate a screen into the offense, or why we couldn't seem to defend it either. But Chiz and Herman have reversed that trend and I think you will see it more. ARob is a very good pass receiver.



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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    Because we have a great habit of them not working it seems. When I can't remember more than one good screen pass a year.
    This. In my admittedly few years watching the Cyclones I remember very few screens actually working well for us.



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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    I was talking more over the past 10-15 years.... Hopefully Herman can successfully implement it this year. I agree with Bryce that it really has never worked for us.... it isn't a very complicated play. ESPECIALLY, when most of the time the entire defensive line is in our backfield anyway.
    This is what I have thought, screens should work because every play looks like a screen pass. I think one reason they do not work for us is that the RB is used so much for blocking that whenever he isn't back there, they know something is up.



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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    I was talking more over the past 10-15 years.... Hopefully Herman can successfully implement it this year. I agree with Bryce that it really has never worked for us.... it isn't a very complicated play. ESPECIALLY, when most of the time the entire defensive line is in our backfield anyway.
    Because, as BryceC stated above - we traditionally have sucked at the screen.

    Even Ben Bruns, our All American lineman said as much during the telecase of the NDSU game last week.

    Can't fault the man for being honest.



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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    From what i remember from this game, Arob had great success on screen passes. I hope we use them, but only when they arent expecting it!


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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    I was talking more over the past 10-15 years.... Hopefully Herman can successfully implement it this year. I agree with Bryce that it really has never worked for us.... it isn't a very complicated play. ESPECIALLY, when most of the time the entire defensive line is in our backfield anyway.
    Oh well in that case, it's probably because we have had some bonehead OCs (Barney Cotten).



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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Maybe beacause we havnt had RBs that can catch the all since Enis.


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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    We didn't show a ton of our playbook, just the one Money pass.



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    Re: Why do we run so few RB screen passes?

    Didn't the announcers bring this subject up in the first quarter of the NDSU game? From what I remember them saying, Herman had the offense work on screen plays for the first 2 weeks practice. It looks like something they want to make screen plays a big part of the offense.


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