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    And that's why you don't hold out...

    J. Walter Weatherman could not have taught this lesson any better.

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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by jdewaard View Post
    J. Walter Weatherman could not have taught this lesson any better.

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    I almost feel bad for the cats sometimes.


    Ummmmmmmm NO they reap what they sow, if they wanna be idiots over a million dollars that us normal folks would kill for then........... no sympathy lost on my part



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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    karma's a *****!


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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by CYCRAZY View Post
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    Ummmmmmmm NO they reap what they sow, if they wanna be idiots over a million dollars that us normal folks would kill for then........... no sympathy lost on my part

    well, that's why I said almost isn't it?


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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by jdewaard View Post
    well, that's why I said almost isn't it?
    yes it is, these overpaid jerks is one reason I dont follow the NFL like I used to



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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by CYCRAZY View Post
    yes it is, these overpaid jerks is one reason I dont follow the NFL like I used to

    The NFL really needs to address rookie salaries. Whether it be Jake Long becoming the highest paid tackle in the game before ever playing a down, or idiots like Michael Crabtree wanting to be paid based on their prospective fantasy numbers, there needs to be a change.


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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by jdewaard View Post
    The NFL really needs to address rookie salaries. Whether it be Jake Long becoming the highest paid tackle in the game before ever playing a down, or idiots like Michael Crabtree wanting to be paid based on their prospective fantasy numbers, there needs to be a change.
    You hit it on the head here, unfortunatly I dont think it will ever change. Thats why I dont buy NFL stuff or go to any games, these bozo's arent getting a dime from me, untill it changes



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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by CYCRAZY View Post
    You hit it on the head here, unfortunatly I dont think it will ever change. Thats why I dont buy NFL stuff or go to any games, these bozo's arent getting a dime from me, untill it changes

    I don't have quite as bleak of an outlook. Goodell has expressed interest in limiting rookie pay, and you would think that the players union would be in favor as veteran salaries would likely go up. It may not happen next this year, but I think it is on the horizon.


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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    The NFL can make rules, but until they find a way to keep agents from putting unrealistic pictures into the heads of these kids, nothing is going to change. I'd be willing to bet there wouldn't be a Crabtree situation if his agent hadn't told him to holdout for more.



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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by jdewaard View Post
    The NFL really needs to address rookie salaries. Whether it be Jake Long becoming the highest paid tackle in the game before ever playing a down, or idiots like Michael Crabtree wanting to be paid based on their prospective fantasy numbers, there needs to be a change.
    Or Matt Stafford signing a larger contract than Tom Brady (I believe) before even taking an NFL snap.


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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    The Bengals wouldnt pay his slots value it was there fault not his

    Watch hard knocks it was the bengals




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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneJoe View Post
    The Bengals wouldnt pay his slots value it was there fault not his

    Watch hard knocks it was the bengals
    Serious question: Who sets the slot values?



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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002 View Post
    Or Matt Stafford making signing a larger contract than Tom Brady (I believe) before even taking an NFL snap.
    Tom Brady: $5 mil + $3 mil roster bonus
    Matthew Stafford: $41.7/6 = $6.9 mil, although I would almost guaranteed it's structured such that he's not getting $6.9 mil in year one.

    I hardly blame that on Stafford, though. First, Brady is in year 5 of a 6 year, $60 mil contract that was signed in 2005, so Stafford isn't making more than Brady to begin with. Second, Stafford was the #1 pick, where Brady was a Mr. Irrelevant from 10 years ago. Who knows how much Brady will be paid when he resigns. Third, it's not like Stafford held out to get this contract.

    So I think the pay is out of line? Certainly. Am I going to blame Stafford for signing an out-of-line contract that was offered to him? Hardly.


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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Tom Brady: $5 mil + $3 mil roster bonus
    Matthew Stafford: $41.7/6 = $6.9 mil, although I would almost guaranteed it's structured such that he's not getting $6.9 mil in year one.

    I hardly blame that on Stafford, though. First, Brady is in year 5 of a 6 year, $60 mil contract that was signed in 2005, so Stafford isn't making more than Brady to begin with. Second, Stafford was the #1 pick, where Brady was a Mr. Irrelevant from 10 years ago. Who knows how much Brady will be paid when he resigns. Third, it's not like Stafford held out to get this contract.

    So I think the pay is out of line? Certainly. Am I going to blame Stafford for signing an out-of-line contract that was offered to him? Hardly.
    no, it's not the player's fault. They are just gettting the best deal they can within the system. the system is at fault.


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    Re: And that's why you don't hold out...

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002 View Post
    Or Matt Stafford signing a larger contract than Tom Brady (I believe) before even taking an NFL snap.
    They said that but it was misleading because Brady's contract is larger after bonus'. I am a Niners fan and I really hope they don't sign Crabtree. Then he has to go into next year's draft and I believe it will be much stronger not to mention no one will want to pick him in the top half of the first round at least and then he will come out with way less money. I believe they will sign him, but he is nontheless, a punk.



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